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03-29-2024 , 02:00 PM
3-5 NL
Just table-changed, and this is my 3rd dealt hand, so no reads on players.
Hero has effective stack of $725.

Hero in CO with QdQs
Button straddles $10 and is last to act pre-flop.
UTG+2 limps $10.
Lo Jack raises to $45
Hi Jack calls.
Hero raises to $150.
Button calls.
UTG+2 raises all-in to $176.
Everyone calls.

Pot: $883, 5 handed
Flop: Tc 4s 3h
Check. Check. Check.
Hero shoves $549.
Button calls.
Lo Jack tanks for 3 minutes and folds.
Hi Jack tanks for 2 minutes and folds.

Turn: 5d
Hi Jack hollers and says he folded pocket fives.
Lo Jack says he folded pocket kings.

River: Jh

Showdown...

What do you guys think of my shove on the flop?
How do you like my chances to win this pot?
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03-29-2024 , 02:11 PM
What is going on pre? You said you're the effective stack? Your 3-bet is way too small and now the door is closed.
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03-29-2024 , 02:30 PM
Other than the guy who went all-in preflop, I have the smallest stack. You're right, I should have said effective stack.

I agree, the 3-bet is too small. This is actually a hand from early January, that I wrote down in my notes and discussed with a friend. I don't remember why I chose this 3-bet size. If it happened now. I would probably raise to $200.
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03-29-2024 , 02:44 PM
Yes, 3bet size should be 200 or more. Id go to 225, but thats just a slight thing.

Jam flop is the only move.

Cant believe LJ doesnt shove KK preflop, then he actually folds a clean flop, insane.

What a crazy table, 5 way 3bet pot lol.

What do I think about your chances? Well its definitely profitable but button started with flatting a 3bet so he probably shows up w JT or something and we lose. But definitely jamming every time here.
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03-29-2024 , 02:55 PM
What’s the question? You want to bet smaller?
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03-29-2024 , 03:01 PM
I think the shove on the flop is the way to go, but interested if anyone thinks differently.

No other questions, but I thought this was an interesting hand. The river reveal is interesting. But maybe this thread shouldn't have been posted in the "strategy" forum, and I could have picked somewhere else...

I thought it was crazy that KK didn't 4-bet preflop, and then folds on the flop. He didn't show his cards, so it's possible he wasn't telling the truth, but he stuck with the story.
I thought the guy who claimed he had 55 spent way too much time tanking before he folded on the flop, if indeed he had 55. Then he was pissed he didn't call when the 5 hit the turn.

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Originally Posted by OmahaDonk
What’s the question? You want to bet smaller?

Last edited by Dopaminer_09; 03-29-2024 at 03:08 PM.
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03-29-2024 , 03:02 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Dopaminer_09
I think the shove on the flop is the way to go, but interested if anyone thinks differently.

No other questions, but I thought this was an interesting hand.
Yeah ship it. You got a great result folding out kings.
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03-29-2024 , 03:45 PM
Seems fine
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03-29-2024 , 04:02 PM
We can go a little bigger pre but I wouldn't say it is way to small. IP 3b is usually 3-3.75x + extra money from the cold callers, maybe a little extra from the limper, but sometimes after an iso raise where a lot of money is going in already we can go a little smaller. Anywhere around 150-200 is defensible. I probably go 180.

Flop is fine when SPR is this low.

LJ is lying or bad.

HJ is a waste of space holding everyone up for 2 minutes with an underpair.
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03-31-2024 , 04:01 PM
Assuming I had the presence of mind to do it, I'd have gotten a count on the EP limper's stack size before making my raise. Don't want to raise to $150 when he only has $176. Might as well just raise to his stack size, and get some additional fold equity.

AP, hell yeah, I'm jamming a clean flop like this.

LJ and HJ are oxygen thieves.

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Last edited by docvail; 03-31-2024 at 04:11 PM.
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03-31-2024 , 04:39 PM
I'd go a little larger preflop but it's not a blunder.

Flop I would go small. You're never bluffing and I don't want anyone with a Ten the chance to get away. I'd probably go 200 and jam most turn cards.

"LJ is lying or bad" - yes to this. Should have 4bet OOP as well with dead money. So I'm leaning bad, although could be both.

Interested to know what button called with, but I'm not particularly concerned, you should mostly be ahead. If your jam somehow got a better hand to fold and a worse hand to call then happy days.

Edit, 200 makes no sense actually...you could maybe go 150. There's no stack depth at all, so maybe after all there's no play other than jam. I'd just be very irritated to get a Ten to fold in a pretty safe situation.

Last edited by moxterite; 03-31-2024 at 04:55 PM.
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04-01-2024 , 06:48 PM
Showdown:
H flips over his QQ.
Spoiler:
Button flips over AA.
Utg+2 mucks.


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Last edited by Dopaminer_09; 04-01-2024 at 07:13 PM.
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