Playing 1-3 300 cap

I'm in the sb, I've been playing pretty tight but aggressive.

MP limps, button limps, I look down at QhQs and raise it up to $20. BB calls (older guy I've played with before, not very good but not a complete donkey) MP folds button calls (button is a fish with a high vpip and will call you down super light)

Eff stack $450, I cover both

($65) Flop Jd 8d 4s

I bet $35, BB folds button calls

($135) Turn 7s

I bet $100, Button calls

($335) river 8c

I go all in, villian snap calls and shows 87h

Is there any way I could have played this better?

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While I appreciate you taking the time to post this hand, and you did a great job formatting the hand history imo, I would recommend that in the future you refrain from posting the results of the hand in your original post. The reason being that knowledge of the results can taint the analysis.

What PPG said.

You're targeting button, right? And button's a sticky fish? Bump it a tad more pre then (not that it would have saved you). Thinking something like 30. Just to charge the clueless, when we're OOP.

The 'traditional 2+2' way to play an overpair (at least in all the time I've lurked) is: Raise
Pre, Cbet (and I would have really charged clowns with only QQ. Thinking 3/4 or pot on J84dd. So much can come to beat QQ, besides the frush or help for a J8 straight combo)

Anyway, it continues with check turn and either bet or call a modest 1/2 pot bet or so on river.

Here, that would have looked like: PF, bet 30, button calls LOL. Sooted!

[60], 50-60, button calls or folds. If calls 50... [Willing to listen why we shouldn't be blasting J84]

[160], Ck, and then Button probably LOLs at 2P and gives you enough warning that "Queens no good."

And you save your stack.

When V called the rather large turn bet, that was a red flag...or a screaming air raid siren...or a neon sign blinking on and off: "You might be screwed." At that point, your opponent could conceivably have been on some kind of draw. When the river paired the board, though,

(hang on, let me turn on my English-to-Pokerspeak translator)

V's range was polarized. He was OOG with HYF and since he was a SRYPF, he probably was POOP and the guy at the next table blocked all straight flushes, you should have value bet the hypotenuse of his range, hoping to get in both light and dark with

(OK, it's not working; back to English)

he either missed his draw (no value to be gained by shoving) or hit his hand hard (since he probably would have raised you on the flop if he'd hit top pair), which obviously would also have made shoving unprofitable.

The actual result of the hand doesn't matter. What's relevant is that this situation didn't merit a shove. I think you may have thought, "He's a fish, he'll pay me off with whatever junk he has." But even a fish may engage in logical thought. The hand you were hoping for (he had J-something) was much less likely than the hand you dreaded (8-something).

Therefore, I would have checked the river. If your hand was good at that point, there was no more money to be made anyway.

Sorry about that

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I like this line, what threw me off is villian just flat calling the turn with the board double suited. If he raises like any decent player would have, it would have been a crying fold. But just flat calling his range looked like a flush draw or one pair hand

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Why would an 8 be more likely than a J on that runout?

If I check the river, the villian is going to shove. With 2 draws missing is it always a fold with the board pairing with middle pair? Top pair, that's an easy check fold.

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Because V flat called the flop bet. With most J-somethings, he would have raised.

In a vacuum I think $100 on the turn is bad. This is possibly ok given your reads, depending on exactly how loose/stationy he is, but I'd consider that this is one of the worst turn cards for your hand and overall range, and normally do a lot of checking. T9s, 87s, and 65s all got there and almost every river is bad, OOP with stacks behind.

Agree with the posters above. You should lose $125 total on this hand as a cooler. The last $300 or whatever is over playing your hand. Definitely need to slow down OTT and the river is just spew. What better is folding and what worse is calling?

OTR you have a bluff catcher AT BEST, and betting there is the nut low.

Reading the reviews I agree, I overplayed the hand.

How do you get the $125 total loss if played correctly?

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Im going to rephrase some of what has already been said:

As the preflop raiser, in general, and certainly when you consider your TAG image.... you have the Range advantage. On this flop, you continue to have the range advantage even though the flop is middle to low cards, and the NUT advantage is pretty even since you have alot of Js and even some 88 in your range. However, as the board runs out with 7 and then another 8... the nut advantage is really starting to shift to the pre-flop caller (BTN) since he has alot more 8s and 7s in his calling range. As a result of this, you really will have a hard time holding up to any real aggression. Unfortunately for you, you were so focussed on charging the Flush Draw/Value betting the Jx hands you forgot to consider all of the other crap that this dude will call down with.

Yes, it will suck if you miss a street of value by checking the Turn or River when he has Jx.... but by blasting the River, you really are praying that he has just Jx, because all missed draws will always fold (you didnt give em a chance to bluff) and all better hands will call. Even Jx could find a fold, which means this shove on the river is an extremely Negative EV play (IMO).

I've gotten a lot better by trying to get opponents to call me wider rather than always blasting the pot out of fear of the draws making it. As a result, I may miss some value at times by missing a street or betting smaller on the flop... but I think I balance that by getting more calls from week hands. By doing this, I also manage to pot control to avoid getting stacked when my opponents do get lucky on me.

In short.... OOP find more checks and let the opponent dump money into the pot with a wider range.

I agree completely. Thank you for your analysis

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Nothing firm but you’re $55 into pre and on the flop. I could see a smaller turn bet or a turn check and a river bet or check call