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01-13-2012 , 03:51 AM
3/2 at the Bike. I just sat down a few hands prior. EF=300. I open raise from early position to 15$. She quickly and smoothly rr to 45 from mp. It is folded back to me. She is in her 20s, expressionless, the only one at the table wearing sunglasses, and I assumed TAG. I don't have a lot of experience playing live and would like advice about her range and my response. I'm thinking: QQ+, AQs+, AK. For which, my equity is ~ 42%.
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01-13-2012 , 04:05 AM
Live, aggainst an unknown player, I'd call. 4 betting you usually won't get action from worse hands.
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01-13-2012 , 04:08 AM
Call me a nit but a woman with no reads 3 bets me, I treat AK and QQ like 88-JJ. Fold until proven otherwise, particularly OOP
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01-13-2012 , 04:18 AM
There are no bluff three bets live to speak of. Live unknowns are generally wary of JJ and just flat it. It makes there stomachs turn to three bet it because if they lose they tel
The same bad beat story for weeks.

They also don't really three bet anything less than JJ

Against an unknow you at least have to flat here. Ak is sill possible. You flat but you can't just throw your hands up and go with it post flop. You have to be ready to get away from it depending on bet size and board texture.

Kind of sucks because C/Cing a street only to fold turn or river is lighting money on fire.

I think it's a fold per flop

Exciuse any typos with my iPad. Obvious brag I have an iPad and of don't
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01-13-2012 , 04:18 AM
meh, against an unknown, I'm calling and reevaluating on the flop.

JJ and AK are hands most V's will 3bet with to 45. THere are plenty of V's who may even do so with TT and AQs.

Folding QQ in this spot or setmining with QQ feels too weak.
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01-13-2012 , 04:40 AM
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Originally Posted by dgiharris
meh, against an unknown, I'm calling and reevaluating on the flop.

JJ and AK are hands most V's will 3bet with to 45. THere are plenty of V's who may even do so with TT and AQs.

Folding QQ in this spot or setmining with QQ feels too weak.
Weak schmeak think about all the post flop alternatives. Our best case scenario he has AK and flop comes AQx

Most of the time flop comes low we get heat and have to fold. A or K comes and we get heat we fold
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01-13-2012 , 05:36 AM
Too early in the session to get a read on her play, bad position, three bet: I'd rather give her credit than cash at this point. More opportunities will come later, once you have some idea as to whom you are up against here.
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01-13-2012 , 05:46 AM
You ppl are serious? Folding QQ pre to a 3-bet?
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01-13-2012 , 10:17 AM
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Originally Posted by elcebro
You ppl are serious? Folding QQ pre to a 3-bet?
Readless I think folding pre OOP will show a small profit. Seems weak because we are at the very top of our folding range, but when we call here how can we profitably play post? We are unlikely to stack worse and will have a hard time folding on low flops. Let's wait for a read, or KK+ before setting up stacks pre.

Obv in game, I flat, flat low flop and get it in on brick turn and pretend I got coolered.

Oh and ipad is no excuse I'm on an LG android can't even PM.
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01-13-2012 , 10:25 AM
If I had an ipad and the girl was attractive I'd mini 4bet fold.
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01-13-2012 , 12:16 PM
Meh, this is why we have a bankroll. There are more than enough bad players at this level such that QQ isn't an auto fold to 3bet. 4bet sure, but not a 3bet. Too many combos of AK for that.
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