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Me not so good with the maths,

We can eliminate two of the situations we are 94%-95% underdog when V has KK and QQ b/c he never has these hands since he would have raised PF.

Now what does V have left that beats hero? KQ(6 combinations) and 55(3 combinations) but the rest of villains range is Kxh, Qxh, NFD, OESFD, 1pair combo draws, my point is its a lot more hands we are a favorite to when we take out of his range KK and QQ.

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06-30-2014 , 04:18 PM

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QuadJ

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Originally Posted by warped

i fold given that i don't want to play for stacks here but i think it's A LOT closer than it appears. everyone is putting far too tight of a range on villain given these reads.

I've been thinking about this all day and that is where I ended up also. A loose erratic player means hero could be anywhere from way ahead to way behind. Without some more specific read I'm not willing to get it all in this deep with TPTK. How often is he bluffing and semi-bluffing here? Does he make big bets with huge hands? Would he double flat with AK/KK/QQ? There just isn't enough information to pin down his range enough to get any sense of hero's equity. Given that and being more then 100BB deep, I'm not stacking off with TPTK. I'm laying it down and watching this villain closely to get a sense of what he plays and how.

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06-30-2014 , 04:26 PM

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Munchkins Hero

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slight derail

this thread is a perfvect example of why may game has improved dramatically in the last 3 months....

the way hands are discussed, and taking it all in has seriously improved my play a ton.

This thread is no different. Good stuff guys

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06-30-2014 , 04:55 PM

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Professor4Poker

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Originally Posted by aross76

having either KhXh or QhXh would be quite an accomplishment.

but yea i'm fine with taking KK out. i think 1 out of the 3 combos of QQ should prob be in his range, because ppl play strangely.

one pair combo draws is really limited to A5hh, 54hh, 65hh

but yea, what is AK vs. {KQo, KQs, 55, QcQs, AJhh, AThh, JThh, J9hh, A9hh, A8hh, A7hh, A6hh, A5hh, 65hh, 54hh}. i feel like we prob have something like 40ish%

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06-30-2014 , 09:17 PM

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Javanewt

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Originally Posted by boonwatt

Oh that was a funny hand, I raised, he reraised to $25 and I flat called and we were HU. There was $70 or so in the pot and he strangely checked it to me on a TT8 flop so I threw $10 in just to see how he'd react.

In this situation, I probably would have called you down with AK, too. Not an odd hand for him. Definitely folding in this hand.

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06-30-2014 , 09:55 PM

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boonwatt

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Hero shoves, BTN and UTG fold, villain calls and shows 55 for bottom set and wins.

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07-02-2014 , 06:12 PM

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Professor4Poker

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I cannot figure out how to post PT4 poker stove results in this thread. But I did the stove vs. the range I posted 3 posts up, and we only have like 35%. so its a fold. tough spot tho.

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