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08-15-2011 , 11:59 AM
0.10/0.20 Euros,Late night, very tight table, 7 handed, for last half an hour or so, Villain is LAG pf, but smart post flop, he has 17E, and is bitching for last 5 minutes how he spew his stack from 80e to this and how he is in for 60e, and hates the fact that he has such a smallish stack and cannot play how he likes. He is MP and after one limper he makes it 1e, Hero on the button (65e) picks up AdKd and raises to 3e , all fold, and Villain insta moves in for 17 e total. The pot is 20,5 and hero has to call 14. Knowing how he plays 90% of the time he has a small to medium pp and he almost never has KK+ here cause he would raise that no less than 1.7 or even more. Obviously, we have mathematical odds to call(even when we deduct rake and tips eg 1e rake + 0.5e tips ). But the question is do we want to give this player a chance to double up and put him in comfort zone so he can play his style for the slight +mathematical EV situation we are being offered here??
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08-15-2011 , 01:08 PM
Yes.

If we can get him to make -EV plays with a lower stack size, we can do it with a bigger Eff stacks.

If he does win, remind him that you were ahead when the money went in. You will still have the psychological edge.
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08-15-2011 , 01:10 PM
Yes. Playing correctly supersedes everything else IMO. Except the occasional weird play for image purposes.
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08-15-2011 , 01:20 PM
Snap call.
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08-15-2011 , 02:09 PM
You have a top 5% hand this is an easy call.
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08-15-2011 , 02:30 PM
Villain seems spewy, and will most likely throw around more money if he does double. We are racing ahead of his range. If if we are behind, its ever so slightly.
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08-15-2011 , 07:05 PM
I couldn't get past the fact that it's a "very tight table" at .10/.20.
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08-15-2011 , 09:38 PM
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Originally Posted by Midnight Cowboy
I couldn't get past the fact that it's a "very tight table" at .10/.20.
Like, duh, it's Euro...

it plays like 15c/30c blinds!
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08-16-2011 , 12:01 AM
Are you really asking if you should fold AKs on the button preflop, just to keep a villain out of his comfort zone? Interesting question.

If you were talking about keeping a deep stack uncomfortable, then I might think there was some merit, however, passing up a +EV situation to keep a short stack off balance is nothing more than leaving money on the table.
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08-16-2011 , 01:16 PM
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Originally Posted by nddst
Like, duh, it's Euro...

it plays like 15c/30c blinds!
rofl
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08-16-2011 , 02:15 PM
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Originally Posted by nddst
Like, duh, it's Euro...

it plays like 15c/30c blinds!
Well it is the smallest game offered in my city with max buy in of 30e but it makes sense cause in Serbia the average monthly income is around 300e, so it is ok relative to the current state of our economy. Although the prices in supermarket are HIGHER then those in Walmart and malls same for petrol. (I've been in US so this is cold fact).
We have much higher games of course, but this is where I currently play.
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08-16-2011 , 02:22 PM
@Lary & @JayKon
Thx, This is what I was asking about
@ Bagzz
He was on some form of tilt, he actually plays quite good deep stacked.
@others
Of course I called because that part was simple from EV view. He had 44 and I didn't improve so he took the pot, then I noticed how his tilt is dissolving and now I have tougher opponent at the table to deal with hence the thought about this question.
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