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08-05-2017 , 07:54 AM
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Originally Posted by Chicagodude
OK but AK so often whiffs on the flops I feel like they aren't as valuable as JJ or 10s. Am i wrong about that? Some charts have AKs above JJ and 10s but I see them lose so often. I will do that in the future though.
It's situational but that has nothing to do with the hand in question. I would shove all those hands here.

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08-05-2017 , 10:53 AM
i definitely need to gamble it up more in these situations. The feedback from all of you guys is invaluable.
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08-05-2017 , 11:02 AM
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Originally Posted by Chicagodude
i definitely need to gamble it up more in these situations. The feedback from all of you guys is invaluable.
One thing you need to understand is that there is no absolute hand strength. Each card and action reveals information that can affect the value of your hand. So given the combination of factors here your hand is too good to fold and you just need to figure out what the best betting line is.

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08-05-2017 , 04:19 PM
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Originally Posted by Chicagodude
OK but AK so often whiffs on the flops I feel like they aren't as valuable as JJ or 10s. Am i wrong about that? Some charts have AKs above JJ and 10s but I see them lose so often. I will do that in the future though.

You're looking at AK from the wrong perspective
You got to play AK not like a drawing hand but like a power monster. If you need to draw you will get a TP by the river 50% of the times.

AK suited or unsuited is the strongest no-pair hand in No Limit Hold’em. It dominates over all non paired hands and has good equity against a variety of hands if we can see all five cards. AK vs. 22 to QQ is 46%, up against KK is 30% and up against AA we have 8%. Therefore, AK can be played really strong as it performs well against almost every hand except AA and we hold a blocker to even that and cut the Aces combos in half.

A great majority of live No Limit Hold'em players even winning players play AK far too weakly. Most of them think the AK is a drawing hand, therefore they only call raises to hit the flop or fold after the flop if they missed. Playing AK this way guaranty the lowest earn possible for the hand. The lack of reciprocal edge by playing AK softly alone demonstrates why we should no play AK softly.

Bottom line is this: If we play AK in a defensive manner rather than offensive then our hand playing is basically really weak which breads an entirely weak overall game plan.

Why it is so important to play it strong? - Because is the only non pair hand that we can take a stand with. Meaning 3-betting, 4-betting and then be able to call a shove if in fact the villain is strong enough to shove on us. We can make life miserable for 88, 99, TT, JJ, QQ and AK and dominate all other hands with our AK if they decide to 3bett our raises. We can 4bet heavy and be able to call a shove for 100 to 150 big blinds, and this makes us extremely tough to play against.

It must be a hell to play against our AK. That's the way you should look at your AK.

Last edited by outdonked; 08-05-2017 at 04:27 PM.
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08-05-2017 , 08:06 PM
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Originally Posted by Avaritia
Shove both times bud


Glad to see threads that should end with post #2 still exist
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08-05-2017 , 09:23 PM
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Originally Posted by Chicagodude
Some charts have AKs above JJ and 10s but I see them lose so often. I will do that in the future though.
The charts are correct. The AKo/AKs makes more money. Also OTF there are no over cards to AK so you got betting power to c-bet. With JJ you gonna see over cards that will slow you down. You could be ahead or behind, you don't know unless you flop a set. Having only an overpair to the flop with KK is no gonna make you a lot of money because competent villains and even regular decent players will not give you action OTF if they cannot beat the top pair of that flop or if they don't have some combo draw to the nuts+pair. So, you win a small pot but most of times you fold on the flop when you see A, K, Q or the flop is paired and you c-bet with your over pair and villain calls only to lead or raise you OTT. - Wat'choo gonna doo? (LOL) just kidding man .. - ... but serious now, - Fold? ... or continue?

And beside all this mess the AK plays much easy and relaxed compared with JJ. One good thing is the fact you not worry of over cards. The goddamned over cards they're not gonna be coming to mess up your hand 66%. On the other hand you really want to see the big over cards but they will only flop 33% and 50% by the river.

Over cards on the flop when you hold a big or medium pair
KK 23%, QQ 43%, JJ 59%, TT 71%, 99 81%
So, half the time about 60% actually your JJ will be in jeopardy

Over cards when you hold AK 0% like never ..., wtf ..
only 33% of flops you see a K or an A for TPTK with no domination from anybody

This is the story of AKo/AKs and JJ/TT ... etc haha

Last edited by outdonked; 08-05-2017 at 09:44 PM.
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08-05-2017 , 11:52 PM
man you are way too smart to only have 300 posts man, thanks a ton. I'm one of those guys who plays AK too weakly (obviously).
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