NYC home game. Im a late 20s, early thirties looking guy w a euro accent. Friendly in table talk and active ingame. Barreled twice against a guy who I perceived to be a nit (he wasn't). Other than a big hand in the first 15 mins I sat down, where I tripled up w a boat, I've bled 500 in the next 3 hrs, mostly fps. Stack 950.

V is late thirties Asian tag, looks like a grinder. Nothing out of the ordinary far as hand histories go. He called two barrels against a loose passive fish on a paired flop, then raised river when the only straight card came. Stack 1200.

8 handed. Ep passive fish opens 15, 2 calls including v on cutoff. I have AhKd sb. I make it 65. Folds to V, he tanks and calls.

2 3 8 hh flop. I continue 80. (This shoulda been slightly bigger imo). He calls relatively quickly.

Turn 5 h. I think about betting to rep AAh, but then change my mind since I dont have enough history to decide if V can think on ranges. So after a short tank, I tap, V bets 6 greens almost instantly.

I shuffle 1 minute, casually announce all in and put the stacks in.

Thoughts?

It might work because idk what V has here maybe 99-JJ but I don't think this is a great spot to bluff? Would you really play AA or KK like this?

Honestly I cant say I had a clear plan after flop, I was somewhat half tilted (not visibly) by getting barrels called twice by third pair type hands.

On this hand, I prolly just bet fold turn w KK+ and soul river if flatted on turn. Again, reason why I didn't rep the AA is i thought V mayb wasnt able to read into ranges, and I had a much better chance of leveraging if I check turn.

even if villain doesnt think in terms of "ranges", if he's actually a grinder i think most ppl will realize you are repping an overpair if you bet again.

i dont think you really rep anything that well with this line, but it is probably not horrendous. my bias based on your timing description for villain is to think that he has a non-nutted hand (less than a set), but i could be wrong, you were there, etc.
you do at least always have equity when called. if you are quite sure based on timing/physical reads that he has one pair, i don't hate it.

raise more pre. with 2 callers on the 15. i make it 105

flop sizing is about 1/2, pot, i like that sizing here.

turn gives you even more outs, no point checking. if u made it 105 pre and flop bet 130, pot is now 500 and u can bet/call ~300

as played your raise sizing is too large

Im going to sound like an animal criticizing posts in my own thread, but this whole post is really bad.

I think 65 is perfect pre.

Now on the flop, which likely hits his suited Ace-rag range more than yours, but you oop and can easily have a solid over pair, no reason not to continue aggression.
Now what is the pot, like 150, and you put in 80. Depends a bit on your normal sizing, I'd lean more to the 2/3 pot size, maybe 100.

The turn brings a lot of interesting options, and I would really try to put V on a range here. Limp-called a strong 3-bet pre, and called about a 1/2 pot bet on the flop...

Depends a lot on how many Pocket-pairs he might call pre, vs suited Ax and Kx, plus some combos of suited connectors... Yeah kind of tough.

How would you play the made nut flush here, you think you call and bomb river, or bomb right here?
I'm having a tough time deciding how to play this hand on the turn. I think your check-shove is a reasonably line, though I don't think I could pull the trigger there myself.

I like it as played

check shove on the turn is so big... i prob just triple barrel this board w/ these stacks.

Im jamming 800 into 470. I've already barreled twice before and shown Khi in wet boards (explained in op).

nice hand, well played.


be prepared to have to get there.

Fo reelz

Pf needs to be bigger to account for oop and limpers...

As played i think its ambitious to expect 77-JJ To fold to a cbet on the flop... Furthermore its not a good flop to rep.. I think a ck/ eval line is better...

Turn u crai so u can like never have a flush here and are basically capped at an overpair with a lone heart/ and bluffs which are there are more of in ir range..

All those things combined and it seems a little too ambitious unless we know v wont hero call us with pp..

Plus u have to realize if he has a pp with a heart he is prob nvr folding if he thinks his heart is live..

if he reps overpair with heart then villain should fold hands like 77 ducy.

Yes ofc i do but the point is all things considered not just omg he has overpair!

I guess my point is more towards the flop.. Tht one pair hands arent folding alot to a cbet...

Yea thats why im betting the flop, to build the pot w the hoverpair.

(Just explaining my thought process, not screaming "my line is great dammit").

I mean heres the thing.. V is fully uncapped here, he can have flushes, sets, 2 pr, op with single hearts etc... He shouldn't be bluffing here..

You can have like QQ-AK with a single heart tops...

How do you feel you're doing against this range?

At best i could maybe get with a call on turn.. At best..

Say u wanted to play this like the nut flush AKhh i might make it 90 pf.. Ck call flop, lead turn 30-40% pot and shove rvr or 120% pot rvr with Ak one heart..See how strong this makes us look? Plus it gives us room to fold and /or eval all streets..

Why in the blue hell would we check flop with AKhh?????




Anyway, it's a nice idea, but I don't like this bluff readless. I think he has mostly flushes when he bets this turn...not sure if/why he'd bet a midpair here.

Bc pp don't fold this flop... Read the other posts..

I mean your right i would def lead nut fd here.. I was just making a case for cking ak one heart on his flop line.. Ffs i hate the internet

We get called a lot on the flop but AK one heart on this board is a fine hand to barrel. As played his turn bet seems an awful like he actually hit the flush though.

To encourage your FPS issues, I'd consider check/call turn, check/call river.

A good TAG is going to float a ton of hands in position on 832hh.

And his range for calling pre, calling flop and betting turn is actually very wide.

I would basically ignore the possibility he has a set (do the math, it's actually impossible, but seriously his turn bet sizing is just not that valuish and does not appear to have an eye toward getting in stacks, and he did not raise flop - he won't always with a set, but will sometimes, and that combined with weak turn sizing looks weak).

Pre-flop, he can have some pocket pairs but also a ton of unpaired over cards (people call 3-bets wide in position deep here, and he can have, I don't know, T9s, KJs, KQo, you name it, tons and tons and tons of combos ~200BB deep - pocket pairs aren't that many combos).

His range for bet/folding the turn is actually very rich in hands you ALREADY BEAT - the unpaired over cards. He could also bet with a pocket pair like 66, 77, 99, TT - but I'm not convinced he folds these to a turn check/shove, which is a pretty bizarre line after you 3-bet pre... you represent very little and you do have a range rich in AhX a lot).

So I think you're actually thinking a lot about your hand but not about his range. You probably have the best hand. His range is very weak and airy, and nut no pair is often the nuts. I do also think it's hard for him to fold made hands when you ship the turn, so I don't know if your bluff really works (does he fold a lot of better hands?) that well or that capturing the dead money against his weaker hands/air is worth the risk of you getting snapped off by better and denying him a chance to bet the river with his entire range.

In other words, when he bet/folds the turn, I think it's actually very often with a hand that you already beat and too rarely with a hand that beats you. It may be more profitable to let him bluff the river (and sometimes, hilariously, when you bink the river, you are giving him a chance to represent the hand that you actually have... and if he checks behind, so what, it's with too weak a hand to give you value anyway).

Finally, he can have a totally merged range on the turn (strong, medium, and weak hands), but he's going to get very polarized on the river... like, there is no purpose for him to bet the river with the vast majority of his middling pocket pairs anymore. Like, he could bet 66 on the turn because it looks like you're giving up with unpaired over cards a lot, and checking the turn behind just gives you free outs. That's no longer true on the river. When he bets the river, he's bluffing even more often than he is on the turn. And by the way, it's so hard for him to have a powerful hand for value OR for you to give him value with worse. His river sizing could be telling, as well.