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10-14-2023 , 01:44 AM
Odd little spot. I’m hoping there’s not much equity difference between the two, but can be convinced otherwise!

GAME: Blinds are $1-$2 but game is $2-$100 spread-limit, where the most you can raise is $100 over the previous bet.

STACK SIZES: I have $800, V1 has $600, V2 has $85.

THE HAND: V1 opens from EP to $14 (on the high end of standard size here, but not overly so). He’s a competent player, opening at a normal frequency. V2 in the CO only has $85 and he ships it all in over the top.

Folds to me in the BB with AsKs. 4-bet or call?
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10-14-2023 , 02:18 AM
185
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10-14-2023 , 04:11 AM
Fun question: If we cold pop and EP 5-bets what are we doing?
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10-14-2023 , 10:15 AM
OOP I prefer to make it max to 185 to iso the short stack. In position I'm probably just calling as H's hand is very playable 3-way in this situation.

Even if V repops to 285, we get the right price to call.
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10-14-2023 , 10:19 AM
Interesting spot, 300BB deep but rapidly shortening due to large open and 3bet sizes. I think you can min 4bet here, that's still going to be very big relative to the initial open and more than enough to get the job done. That means you can fold to a shove over the top. You could also just jam yourself but I think I like 170 or so best.
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10-14-2023 , 01:07 PM
Buy the limit holdem book. Easy repop
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10-14-2023 , 01:08 PM
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Originally Posted by Stupidbanana
Fun question: If we cold pop and EP 5-bets what are we doing?
Calling all the way to the river.
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10-14-2023 , 01:09 PM
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Originally Posted by moxterite
Interesting spot, 300BB deep but rapidly shortening due to large open and 3bet sizes. I think you can min 4bet here, that's still going to be very big relative to the initial open and more than enough to get the job done. That means you can fold to a shove over the top. You could also just jam yourself but I think I like 170 or so best.
He is playing a limit game. There is no such thing as jamming over the top
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10-14-2023 , 01:53 PM
Ok, that’s what I did. 4-bet to $185.

The EP Opener….flat-calls it?!?!?

Flop: JdTs4h (pot: $440, heads-up).

This really smashes the **** out of his range (which is a ton of TT-AA, or sometimes the other AK, maybe an AQs on occasion.) But do I really want to give up the lead by checking? I’m obviously never folding no matter what, but should I bet-call or check-call?

Last edited by davomalvolio; 10-14-2023 at 02:08 PM.
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10-14-2023 , 02:59 PM
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Originally Posted by davomalvolio
Ok, that’s what I did. 4-bet to $185.

The EP Opener….flat-calls it?!?!?

Flop: JdTs4h (pot: $440, heads-up).

This really smashes the **** out of his range (which is a ton of TT-AA, or sometimes the other AK, maybe an AQs on occasion.) But do I really want to give up the lead by checking? I’m obviously never folding no matter what, but should I bet-call or check-call?
SPR is low at about 1 so him having more top sets isn’t really relevant. You pretty much want to commit as much of your stack as possible with overpairs and balance with some bluffs. When he doesn’t 5bet pre I guess you could eliminate some KK/AA though he certainly could trap those hands some amount of the time. AKs BDFD is a good enough bluff combo blocking the top of his range, so bet-call is fine and I’d probably default to it.

Just keep in mind that due to the spread limit structure your opponent is not going to be folding very much to your cbet (since his pot odds will be so attractive). So you really need to keep your bluffing frequency under control. Of course because your bets are smaller in proportion to the pot you can also value bet wider than in NL because opponent will be calling with a wider range.

I am pretty sure that equities run fairly close on this board and because you aren’t very deep the OOP player can do a lot of betting.

Last edited by ChaosInEquilibrium; 10-14-2023 at 03:08 PM.
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10-16-2023 , 02:41 PM
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Originally Posted by davomalvolio
Ok, that’s what I did. 4-bet to $185.

The EP Opener….flat-calls it?!?!?

Flop: JdTs4h (pot: $440, heads-up).
RESULT: I bet $100 without feeling very good about it. He called.

Turn: JdTs4h 2d (pot: $640, heads-up)

I just check—I’m obviously behind and have no fold equity, and just want to get to the River as cheaply as possible.

He bets $100, I call with somewhere between 4 and 7 outs to River a winner. (I’m unsure at this point whether I will lead an Ace or King.)

River: JdTs4h 2d Tc (pot: $840).

I check. Villain checks back too with KhKc and wins a monster pot. (Short stack mucks without showing.)


Curious if I should have done anything different post-flop, or if this just plays itself?
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10-16-2023 , 10:27 PM
Pot got deep enough that it became like limit holdem. Seems reasonable, although I am not an expert on limit holdem.
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