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Pocket pair from EP help needed Pocket pair from EP help needed

08-07-2019 , 10:12 AM
Yesterday I was playing $1/2 live. I had around $200ish, maybe only $180. I had been playing pretty tight, but probably only 1 player would have noticed, the rest were very loose regulars splashing around. VIL#1 is younger Asian with about $650. VIL#2 is old white dude playing a lot of pots. He also has around $650 after flopping a straight recently and more than doubling up. OTTH...

UTG I look down at TT. I hate this spot. A normal raise would be between $7-16, but OOP I would tend to raise larger, but also expect several speculative hands, almost any ace, any pp to come along, and even more as callers join the pot. So I limp, planning on 3b if there is a raise. A couple callers, and VIL#1 makes it $11. VIL#2 in sb calls. BB folds, and i make it $37. 1 limper calls, the other folds, call call, 4way to flop.

($152 before rake)
AQ8r

SB checks, and here is where I'm not sure what to do. Against loosey players and one crafty VIL, with such a huge pot where I could be nearly drawing dead, I really have no idea what to do. I checked folded when VIL#1 bet $55 and VIL#2 called.

Does anyone lead jam?

Should I have XR AI?

How do you generally play med/hi pairs oop?

I had AA from utg later and raised to $16 and everyone folded. I had raised to $16 with a couple other hands, so I believe I was balancing my utg raise range. This was the only hand I x/r pre as I felt this line didn't accomplish what I wanted, which was to get HU vs VIL#1.

Comments please. And thank you.
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08-07-2019 , 10:22 AM
theoretically, you are supposed to open smaller from ep and larger from co+ to take advantage of no flop no drop

x/f ap, can't do anything else 4way
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08-07-2019 , 10:45 AM
if LRR is your plan pre i think you have to go larger against this field. $55. as played x/f.
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08-07-2019 , 11:36 AM
I don't like the limp reraise plan at all with TT, but if you are going to do it, you need to size up to at least fold out some hands. As played you can be aggressive on some flops with overcards to the ten but any A or K should probably shut down your action.

Standard play is to bet tens utg here, but in many live 1/2 games the OMC approach of limping to setmine isn't as terrible as some on the forums may make you believe.
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08-07-2019 , 02:35 PM
I don't like the sizing preflop of your raise. I'd have made it like $50 - $60. You're goal of raising here is either to take down the pot OR make the price unattractive enough that you get only 1 caller, 2 tops. Making it $37, none of the $11 players are folding to that price. Now you are playing a 4+ way pot, mostly OOP with a medium strength hand (against this amount of players).

With somewhere between 14- 17 BB in the pot already, winning this pot without a flop is a definitive short-term and long term win. I think a $61 bet is what I would do here and expect folds almost every single time.

As played, check/fold the flop. Worst flop ever for your hand and a bet here is simply lighting money on fire long term.
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08-07-2019 , 03:51 PM
The 3bet is wayyyy to small if you're going to 3bet at all. As played, give up and hope to see a free card that hits your set.
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