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PF shove with KK over cascade? PF shove with KK over cascade?

12-09-2015 , 02:17 AM
Say you didn't look at your cards and go all-in
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12-09-2015 , 03:07 AM
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Originally Posted by feel wrath
If you've just sat down and nobody knows you...stand up, call out to the waitress for a beer and then shove.
This is closer to the truth than most people know.
I can see a shove being better as people might call wider. But if they dont know you might think you got the goods.
If you raise you will thin the field and then get the money in on the flop.
The only issue is you have to raise big but not too big. If you raise to 65ish you might get the calling train effect. Utg might have a decent hand so will call utg+1 same thing then it becomes a cluster **** with 5 callers pot is huge and no one will fold out on the flop because they are committed.
So overall bet 120 and play poker
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12-09-2015 , 06:18 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by feel wrath
If you've just sat down and nobody knows you...stand up, call out to the waitress for a beer and then shove.
Yeah, I think it's already a shove, but if you just recently sat down, it's suuuuch a good shove. You will almost always get called in at least 1 spot. I have a lot of experience doing this and it almost always gets called.

I think BadlyBeaten's suggestion of raising to $65 is way, way too small in this pot, and OOP it's just asking for trouble. High likelihood of a snowball effect where you get called by 4 or more players and even if they suck they're gonna have a good idea of your range so you only get paid off on very specific boards
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12-09-2015 , 07:22 AM
Definitely set mine, I learned a lot from this post right here

But seriously, spots like this are the spots I dream about, playing against players that don't know what to do in these spots is also what I dream about.
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12-09-2015 , 08:35 AM
NO TROLLING STRAT THREADS! Lotsa deletions here and all are warned.
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12-10-2015 , 02:05 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by winadil
This is closer to the truth than most people know.
I can see a shove being better as people might call wider. But if they dont know you might think you got the goods.
If you raise you will thin the field and then get the money in on the flop.
The only issue is you have to raise big but not too big. If you raise to 65ish you might get the calling train effect. Utg might have a decent hand so will call utg+1 same thing then it becomes a cluster **** with 5 callers pot is huge and no one will fold out on the flop because they are committed.
So overall bet 120 and play poker

If you bet 120 you have 78 behind to a flop pot of 240 or 360 etc if called to play poker with. Might as well get it in now.
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