I've never done a PAWHM thread before so apologies in advance if I'm not doing this right.

Game: 9 handed $1/$2 NL Hold em. This game is played on an electronic table where every seat has a touch screen. There is no dealer, just a big screen in the middle of the table which shows the board. This game has a bit of an online poker feel except it's offline and the game is relatively soft.


Hero (SB) (About $400): Tight aggressive player. In the session this hand is from, I bought in as a short stack ($80) and ran it up to about $400. My table image at the time was likely more laggy than it really was due to a very passive table. I tend to get berated a lot in general at this game because God forbid somebody raises with a hand that isn't AA or KK lol

Villain (BB) (About $600): a regular at this game. typical cocky shades/hoody player. He's relatively loose passive. He'll chase draws oop and I've seen him call numerous streets of value after flopping top pair with a weak kicker. He also generally plays straightforward postflop from what I've seen.

Preflop:

Everyone folds to hero who picks up K J in the SB. At these tables, when there's a Blind vs Blind situation the screen asks if you want to chop the blinds. I normally don't chop but I figure this time I'd ask the BB if he wants to. After no response I raise to 3BB.

After the raise, Villain turns to me and says in a stern voice "I'm set to automatically chop the blinds. If you really want to chop the blinds next time hit yes and don't ask"

Villain calls $4

Flop ($12): 9 10 Q
Hero: Bet $10
Villain: Snapcall $10

Given what I know about Villain, it made the most sense to me for him to have some kind of draw given the board is soaking wet. I actually don't think he'd hold onto a pair here.

Turn ($32): Q
Hero: Bet $30
Villain: Call $30

I'm still leaning towards a draw here. He could very well be slow playing a full house but I feel like he woulda raised here if that was the case, especially with how fast I've been playing until now.

River ($92): 4
Hero: Bets $100
Villain: Raise All in

Hero: ??

I think making an unhappy fold is right given villain description. Even if he isn't giving you much credit it is easy for you to have a random QX when you bet 3 streets. Raising this river with a missed draw or other weak hand is very unlikely. The question is only if he will do it with QX that isn't a boat. I don't think a passive player is raising river often enough without the boat for calling a larger then pot shove to be right.

yeah he didn't wanna chop so yes this is probably a fold. He prob had a pp like TT or 99.

not a PAHWM

If you put him on a draw why the river overbet?

This. I don't really like the bet sizing here, it's hard for you to get called by worse ott and on earlier streets it makes your hand look vulnerable. Against most villains I think it's a fold. Most villains won't overbet shove without the virtual nuts, especially pretty 'straightforward' villains. I'm not calling here without a much better read on villain than you have.

I like the bet. Plenty worse will call in passive game. He isn't folding a Queen. Or pocket Jacks. Blind vs blind guys call way to light. Pot size bet looks bluffy so may even get some hero calls.

However, your reasoning for bet is bad. If you think he only has draws. Then betting accomplishes nothing, you should check/call.

As played, easy fold.

Ugh. I don't like the river bet oop on a paired board, even if you think V had a draw. Check and plan to call. Most Qx and missed flushes would bet the river and you lose the least if you run into a boat.

Having said that, I'm sigh calling V's shove. People do really stupid **** in BvB situations. I think there's too great a chance V has Qx, especially with the Q of spades out there. I think V would raised the flop with a set or two pair to protect against draws. V might put you on Jx or bluffing with pure air.

So I woulda been better check/calling the river?

call. hes probs raising flop and turn with sets/two pair on such wet boards. the river ship is pretty spewy, folds out a lot of your range so cant see too many value hands here. given your description of v, he probs has lots of overvalued J8, Qx type hands in his range, as well as plenty of air. also, live players dont tend to snap off cbets on superwet flops with sets or twopair. If he has a boat here, then he can deffs have J8, Qx in his range.

It is almost never a bad idea to fold to a river shove from an unknown LLSNL player. For every time you pick off a bluff or overvalued hand you will lose 9-10 times.

Looking back I don't know why the hell I'm betting so much on the river if he most likely has draws lol. Some of the players I've seen will call down value bets with ace high just bc they think anyone who raises more than never is full of **** so it's profitable sometimes, but this was a definite value ownage

Call. If he's calling with draws on the flop and turn he can definitely do this with his busted draws. Live players tend to be not so trappy with sets so it's pretty thin to put him on only 99 or TT. He can overvalue any Q here as well as J8 as blind vs blind situations make ranges widen. I don't agree with c/c but I think the over bet may have induced this shove. But fat value for this river is definitely the right idea imo as if he can call loose, I wouldn't want to see a street of value missed.

look, i know you probably ran into a boat and are wondering whether you couldve gotten away from it. the answer is probably a no - this hand was a cooler. given how badly he played a boat here, he can definitely have worse straights and Qx in his range as well. people don't get tend go "next time hit yes and don't ask" with 99, TT, QQ even QT. the only hand which beats us that actually makes sense is Q4, but other than that, given our odds, he definitely doesnt have a boat more than 2/3 of the time. a call is +ev.