Hero is relatively new to the table. Is down a little bit and probably has a weak-tight image after raising pre a few times, c-betting OTF, and giving up on the turn (1010 once vs. Q J x board; AQo whiffed on 10 9 3 ss board; AK another time on 10 8 7 hh board - on this one I got don keyed into with multiple players in the hand and just folded).

Table has been fairly typical weak passive table. Lots of limps, and the pre flop raises were big with good hands (between $30-40). Very face up.

BB covered Hero and likely had the biggest stack (or maybe 2nd biggest) at the table. Has blasted the pot with good to great holdings (e.g., $40 into $25 with an overpair).

V1 is UTG. He's on a shorter stack, but has recently chipped up (while Hero bled some chips with the aforementioned hands) and now covers hero. V1 appears to somewhat overvalue his hands but plays fairly straightforward.

Game is $3/$5 spread limit (essentially no limit, but the single biggest bet or raise is $500). Hero's effective stack is about $500 and is in the SB with Q2

V1 limps. CO limps. Button limps.

$2 to Hero to call. Hero?

Fold. Short thread

I fold this here, but I guess we called or this wouldn't be a PAHWM.

I think raising big to steal / rep AA would be a much better line although unnecessarily risky with a hand this bad (I would wait for Q9s for the straight possibilities, or even better A3s for the blocker/overcard potential).

Terrible position + RIO hand = Fold.

Depending on the table/hero's image, squeezing could be a viable option.

Folding>>>>>Raising>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>calling.

In b4 fold pre (i planned to type that regardless of you holdings as I knew someone would have already told you to fold pre). FWIW, nearly every PAHWM hand I have read has been a fold pre. I'm ok with calling here due to $2 for LOL pot odds but in general I think it would be bad for me to advice you to complete the SB with Q2 sooted.

Call. Get to see a flop cheap with a suited hand, let's go.

Fold get ready to play that button.

This. You're when you draw, you'll be drawing to the third nuts. You are in the worst position. This hand is what we call "tempting trash."

Yup

Getting 10 to one on a pf call if bb is passive and unlikely to raise.
i look for reasons to complete the small blind because folding for half a bet reinforces a nitty image if anyone is paying attention.
With q2s, hoping to flop flush or trip 2 or top and bottom pair or get away relatively cheaply. 10 to one pot odds and implied odds if we smash the flop are pretty good. Oop stinks, but this kind of tempting trash can be profitable if played very carefully. I'm check folding top pair, for example, and not chasing flush draws.

Nobody is paying attention though and even if they were you could just complain that you keep getting 73off suit and how you would have played if it was sooted. Just don't accidentally flip over your Q2 sooted because then everyone will ooooooh and ahhhhh with the understanding that you are a nit

How does llsnl make any money playing poker these days? Just waiting around for top slansky rated hands? The fold pre is valid but also not nec if your good enough post to read most of these ridic passive tables.

This spot is not that tough imo
Either fold, or complete and then just cr flop with 2 pr or a fd, play a flopped Q like a bluff catcher...

If you counter any serious resistance just let it go.. And use bet sizing to your advantage to figure it out.. If omc calls your flop cr obv fold...

But if you are check/raising anytime you flop a queen high flush draw perhaps you should just fold pre.

Yeah, yeah, fold pre. Fun poker to be had by all.

Hero fights against the establishment and completes. BB checks.

Flop: K 9 2x

Five way action, pot is about $20 after rake.

Hero?

People make money by value betting, reading hands and over the long term finding leaks and plugging them. 2 Q suited from the small blind just isn't a valid hand to complete with. There has been plenty of threads stating that you should play the tightest from the small and BB. Being out of position with an easily dominated hand is a hard thing to make up.

By taking villains with dominated crap for multiple streets of value. Every fish in the casino completes the SB with suited crap. What is your edge over them? Once in a hundred flops you will extract more value oop when you crush it?

Playing oop sucks. Don't get me wrong I complete with crap sometimes but it's usually lack of discipline not good strat.

Most LLSNL overestimate their post flop ability and under estimate the value of position... Even though they don't think so.

Check flop.

The fact that you aren't sure what to do when you flop this well is further proof that the completion isn't great.

Betting 20 to build a pot and get value from worse draws. Check raise is always an option but someone has to bet for that to work. Also we fold out dominated draws that we want to keep in the hand.

It's called a PAHWM. I had a plan when this flop, and I played it in accordance with my plan. But I haven't articulated my plan in this thread yet because I'm expecting to get other responses first.

I agree with the preflop advice by most people but I guess it depends how bad the villains are. I mean if the table is that bad and on the 22A type of boards villains will call you multiple streets than calling may not be that bad. But unless you have a good understanding of this folding is most likely best.

OTF, i dont like leading because when you miss your FD on the turn you will likely be guessing. I also dont like c/r here either unless you have some spot on read on someone who make will make a bad stab and fold. I am checking and planning on calling a stab. Hopefully someone will make a sizing mistake.

This is all predicated on the fact that you understand whoever is stabbing betting/calling range.

The more advice i try to give it seems that unless villains ranges are super wide and will give it away when you are nutted the more I want to advocate a fold 100ish bbs deep.

check/raise

OTF, as played to this point, check and reevaluate, planning to call most bets. If the action gets steep, you can check fold. With 2nd nut flush draw and a pair, you have a lot of disguised value but OOP, I'd keep this pot small for now esp in a limped pot.
A check raise over commits you to this limped pot OOP. Check call, stay deceptive if hit a heart, q or 2 OTT.

I understand, but you made this for a reason. I'm assuming you want to get feedback on how you played the hand. It wasn't meant to be rude just stating a point.

I check/evaluate the flop. Calling most bets, but fold to a bet and a raise. We're not getting 4 folds if we bet our callers will be better made hands and better flush draws with overs to our 2. If an early position raise OTF thins the field I could see check raising depending on reads on the raiser.

Hero checks.

BB bets $20. UTG calls. CO calls. Button calls.

Hero?