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Originally Posted by philepistemer
V1 (200) middle aged Asian guy who dropped 4 $100 bis then reloaded for 200. Plays way too many hands pre from every position, has sizing tells pre, and is a station postflop, but is capable of folding top pair to a big bet. Has shown a few ******ed bluffs.
V2 (200) old white guy, but not an omc. Calls wide preflop, and while he usually takes passive lines, he sometimes mixes things up.
I cover, and have been playing semi-lag, but no one besides v1 has been calling me down light, and that's more because he's a donk than that he noticed I bet too frequently to always have a hand when I do so.
V1 opens to 5 in MP, V2 calls in MP, it folds to H who as ATo in BB, who...
To be honest, I hate this play a hand with me from the onset.
First off, and most importantly, you are not giving us the information that we need to make the right decisions. You say that V1 is a station post flop, but he can be pushed off top pair with big bets. This isn't a station. This is either a decent player, or scared money, or a number of other things, but this isn't a station. A station is the exact opposite.
You say that V2 mixes things up post flop. What does he do? How does he mix it up? What sorts of things (related to this hand) does he do that we should be aware or, concerned with, or just generally be thinking about when we are trying to decide the best course or action against him?
Has anyone 3bet V1 before? Has anyone 3bet anyone so far? What happened?
We really need as much (relevant) information as possible in order to give you the best advice.
Anyway, 3bet pre if you think they will fold.
Call pre if you think that they are terrible post flop and will pay you off with second pair type hands and generally have no idea what they are doing. If the raise was larger then I'd say that calling was pretty suboptimal, but we should be able to show a profit calling 1.5bb into a 3 way pot with ATo.
Fold pre if they are decent villains who aren't going to be dumping large amounts of chips with mediocre hands. If the raise was $10+ 3betting would be about even with folding (reads depending) and both would be a lot better than calling.