PAHWM AA UTG+1 - Live Low-stakes No Limit Poker Forum

Hi all,

2/5 MGMNH. UTG is young Asian TAG, has raised twice in just over an hour. Hero should have a tight image. Hero is playing $275. SB is older white Scandinavian from Silicon Valley, tech type. Saw him raise naked A-high flush draw ott big but he didn't bomb river board pair when he missed and lost to a made flush. Hero is the effective stack. Don't see many 3! at this table at all, people are flatting hands as strong as AQs and AKo.

UTG raises $20, hero has AhAs UTG+1.

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02-20-2019 , 05:57 PM

NOVAgrind

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Playing 275 at a table that doesn't 3-bet much, always a raise even if it looks wtfstrong imho.

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02-20-2019 , 05:57 PM

Javanewt

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I 3bet this every time unless the rest of the table is going to fold if I flat -- or maybe just one non-tricky passive fishy bad player will call.

Make it $60.

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02-20-2019 , 06:32 PM

KID777777

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You said he raised twice in an hour so likely he isn't playing with trash and will come along
60

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02-20-2019 , 06:39 PM

twitcherroo

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$55-60. Next.

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02-20-2019 , 06:40 PM

samo

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Table dynamics not a critical factor 55 bbs deep with aces. $70.

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02-20-2019 , 07:06 PM

BackDoorFlush

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You shouldn't be playing 2/5 with a $275 stack.

$60

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02-20-2019 , 07:54 PM

Jay S

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3b to ~60. A UTG+1 3b is always going to look nutted, but A) his range is pretty strong & he's not folding AK/QQ to that, and B) at a passive table where it's never getting 3b, we often end up playing this MW in bad relative position.

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02-20-2019 , 08:35 PM

DumbosTrunk

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Given that the original raiser is tight to begin with and is opening UTG, we are next to act and also tight, and just how strong we look when we 3! in this spot, I'm a little surprised no one advocated a flat. At a table with so few squeezes and 3!, probably isn't worth the risk to trap here and potentially play a multiway pot where we aren't as big of a favorite. Plus, if we 3! the original raiser could decide to go with it against my small stack with a hand like AK or JJ.

Anyway, hero flatted the $20, CO, BTN, and SB called.

Flop ($100): 9h7sQd. SB donks $45. UTG folds. Hero?

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02-20-2019 , 08:48 PM

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7weeks2days

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Since no one will likely be 3! pre we should 3!. Once we decide not to 3! pre it becomes very villain/stack size dependent.

If V's will call with worse then raise. If not, which seems like the case in your game, I would call and play turns.

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02-20-2019 , 08:52 PM

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DooDooPoker

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This is such a train wreck. From sitting <60BBs to flatting AA and letting it go multi-way. What a complete joke.

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02-20-2019 , 09:03 PM

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Jay S

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Yeah... I don't mean to be rude OP, but when a PAHWM is only a PAHWM because we misplayed it early on, it's just not that interesting.

AP I guess flat, planning to gii on most turns? He probably folds Qx to a raise too often.

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02-20-2019 , 09:06 PM

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XtraScratch8

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*double facepalm

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02-20-2019 , 09:07 PM

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XtraScratch8

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Just flat the whole way regardless of turn/river.

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02-20-2019 , 09:18 PM

#15

wait

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Originally Posted by DooDooPoker

This is such a train wreck. From sitting <60BBs to flatting AA and letting it go multi-way. What a complete joke.

This. Dumbo needs to be banned from posting pahwm. Not one has been remotely interesting yet.

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02-20-2019 , 09:59 PM

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BackDoorFlush

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OP, you have some massive leaks in your game. You should be playing no higher than 1/3 until you correct them.

GL.

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02-20-2019 , 10:33 PM

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samo

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Originally Posted by DumbosTrunk

Given that the original raiser is tight to begin with and is opening UTG, we are next to act and also tight, and just how strong we look when we 3! in this spot, I'm a little surprised no one advocated a flat. At a table with so few squeezes and 3!, probably isn't worth the risk to trap here and potentially play a multiway pot where we aren't as big of a favorite. Plus, if we 3! the original raiser could decide to go with it against my small stack with a hand like AK or JJ.

Anyway, hero flatted the $20, CO, BTN, and SB called.

Flop ($100): 9h7sQd. SB donks $45. UTG folds. Hero?

OP, you have 55 bbs. Do you think an UTG opening range will fold JJ+/AK to your 3b? I think he's more likely to 4b to 55bbs.

As played, gii.

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02-20-2019 , 11:22 PM

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twitcherroo

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Flatting is bad. Shoving would be infinitely better. You’re now set mining with A’s, which I assume you make on the turn, hence the PAHWM. At 55bbs AP just shovel and dodge.

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02-21-2019 , 12:13 AM

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SwolyswoND

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Both this hand and this thread are a trainwreck.

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02-21-2019 , 12:25 AM

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XtraScratch8

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I like flatting all the way and hoping to quadruple up our $275 here.

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02-21-2019 , 01:52 AM

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Eholeing

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$50-55 pre

As played just jam flop

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02-21-2019 , 02:17 AM

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WereBeer

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Raise pre.

Now you can either flat or raise. I’m never here but you are shallow enough that you can raise and look like you are spazzing Qx or flush draws in which case AQ/KQ may call you off. So flat or ship, I guess since you didn’t want to raise with the nuts in order to trap, you may as well raise less than the nuts now you have your guy where you want him.

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02-21-2019 , 08:41 AM

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Badreg2017

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Pretty much the only way I'm ever flatting pre is if it's a wild game, I have a tight image, and it's super likely that someone is going to squeeze. One other example would be whale limps, pro opens, and I flat to keep the whale in the pot.

If you think 3 betting AA here is going to get so many folds then try just 3 betting with garbage and see what happens.

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02-21-2019 , 08:56 AM

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MikeStarr

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How the hell are you in a 2/5 game where your $275 is the effective stack? You know that means nobody at the table has more than $275 right?

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02-21-2019 , 09:10 AM

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snowman

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Originally Posted by DooDooPoker

This is such a train wreck. From sitting <60BBs to flatting AA and letting it go multi-way. What a complete joke.

+1

I find it hard to believe OP has a degree or finished high school

if you continue to insist on playing short stacked at the very least
employ a short stack strategy

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