2/5 villain has played one round and has about $300 behind. I've played with him before. He's pretty solid but can be passive.

Hero: $700

Hero limps UTG with 22, MP limps, LP limps, villain limps on button, blinds both complete.

Flop $30: Ac2d7c, checked to villain who bets 20.
Blinds fold.

Do you flat or raise and why?
Any merit to leading out the flop?

My logic is to raise to charge any flush draws, however I think raising will fold out any ACE.
Leading the flop can narrow hands down pretty cheap or have opponents bloat pot with worse hands.

Flatting a bet can allow MP and LP to get out of line.




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Definitely leading OTF. You will get value from aces and FDs. CRing will lose most of the weak parts of those ranges, so you'll only get the one bet you would likely have got anyway, and getting more value is much easier once the pot is bigger, especially as betting out is seen as much less scary than CR.

In a multiway limped pot, you are generally better leading this. Flush draws and aces won't give up to the first bet but may not bet themselves.

You should sometimes check/raise this sort of hand but this isn't a good board or situation for it. The check/raise works better if the board is wetter or more garbage. A JcTh2c board puts a lot of draws you might raise while a 7c3h2d is such garbage villain may think your bluffing or trying to find out if your 88 hand is good or not. The check/raise works much better if there is an aggressive villain right after you so you can check, villain bets, there are a couple of calls and then you can raise big.

As played this board is dry enough I would flat the flop bet and hope at least one more villain comes along. You can then lead the turn, even if it is a club you can easily represent a club draw yourself.

I don't like limping in the UTG with 22 in most situations. It screams "I've got a weak hand pf, lets be friends and see who's best after the flop." This would be playable if you're at a table where people are very passive, but will never fold TP no matter what the pressure.

If that is the case, then you should have bet the flop when it came to you. As Garick said, all aces and FD are calling. As played, better late than never. Raise and let the villain think you have a FD or TP.

I def agree on flop/turn lead. Imo the 22 limp is better at a loose/passive table where you won't get much fe post.


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I'm almost always leading in this flop. Too many times it checks through and you lose the opportunity to build a pot. As mentioned, most aces and FD are calling a bet and many strong aces are raising your donk lead allowing us to build a larger pot.

what is so hard about playing the nuts?...post a PAWM thats hard

you dont learn anything with these threads...you could play your whole life and never hit bottom set on A high board, and its a limped pot so who cares

just flat obv

OP learned to lead with sets and got some perspective on his EP preflop game.

Also, people who are never likely to see a low set on an A high flop usually don't plan on playing enough in their lifetime that they'd even consider posting in a poker forum. Moreover, you'll face this scenario with middle and bottom sets on similar flops, like those with any face-card that could have connected with a villains' range as much as Ax.

edit: playing the nuts or near nuts isn't easy simply because we usually win. The issue is how much. If we're not extracting the max, we are leaking. On that note, check/calling isn't obvious at all and is sub-optimal.

Either lead flop and let others with ax continue along with flush draws or check call, there are few bad turn cards and we'd like to allow others to improve and look to get a check raise in on the turn

I don't like checkraising flop as protection isn't enough of a concern

Fold or raise pre. Limping is nah. I agree with the above assessment 9 handed that this is exactly what you look like you have when you limp call.

AP. Lead for 2/3 pot OTF and when the turn comes fire hard and take it down. A river card must never be dealt.

Jesus! The amount of bad advice given out here never ceases to amaze me. How the hell are you going to stack someone if the river card is never dealt?

So much of what to do here is table dependent. I want money going in the pot so I lead if I don't think some one else will bet. In this case we checked and some one bet for us. If I think both players will call behind I flat, if not I raise enough to $55.