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12-03-2015 , 01:36 AM

TheLiveCrush

stranger

Join Date: Nov 2015 Posts: 14

Live 1/2.

Hero is a young reg. Hoodie on, headphones in. Hasnt said much in the 3hrs~ playing with V. Has shown much aggression and has only been to showdown once, flopping bottom set and stacking a shorty.

V. Is a fishy russian guy, limp/calling with garbage hands like K6o/64o/etc and has only raised AQ/TT+, which he usually opens to 10-15. Running really hot and has about 900 infront.

V2 just sat down and posted UTG+1

OTTH:

V($900). Raises to 12, UTG, V2($200) calls, MP and CO call, Hero($500) calls with 7

from BB.

Flop ($61): 3

Hero??

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12-03-2015 , 01:56 AM

WereBeer

Carpal \'Tunnel

Join Date: Oct 2013 Posts: 10,700

Either donk big or x/r big. I probably go for the x/r given villain's perceived tight range.

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12-03-2015 , 02:02 AM

Triplerangemerge22

grinder

Join Date: Sep 2013 Posts: 417

bet big flop. agaist really loose villains i cr flop.
fold pre

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12-03-2015 , 02:07 AM

sierradave

adept

Join Date: Aug 2008 Posts: 920

What are his postflop tendencies? How confident are you that he'll bet this board into multiple opponents? Is he likely to raise with an overpair if you don't into him? Will he raise/fold?

Usually I like donking this flop into a pfr. But with your relative position, that has the negative effect of inviting a raise from him that shuts everyone else out.

I think this is a good spot for a check-raise.

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12-03-2015 , 02:09 AM

Mr_Doomed

old hand

Join Date: Jul 2013 Posts: 1,629

I think I like betting 50. We really don't want the flop to check through. We can expect calls from over paid and draws. Sometimes we get raised and can get tons of value.

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12-03-2015 , 07:27 AM

Czech Rays

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Join Date: Jun 2012 Posts: 1,645

C/r ainec. If you donk he will often fold his highcard hands. If he has an overpair and decides to raise, he will blow out lots of hands that this cally V2 would otherwise call with.

If you check, he will cbet many of the hands that would fold to your donk, we can also trap V2 who is much more likely to call a single cbet.

The times it checks through, you were never going to win a big pot amyway.

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12-03-2015 , 08:43 AM

aftrglw

grinder

Join Date: Jul 2012 Posts: 504

I think we really want to know about other player's post flop tendencies to decide on our line here. It looks like we saw a flop 6 ways, so what have we seen in multiway pots like this before? How confident are we that V will c-bet? If V doesn't c-bet, how aggressive are the LP players ip?

Personally, I like donking about 40-50, especially with our image. Not knowing much about the table, I'm expecting to get multiway action and a big pot to fire at ott.

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12-03-2015 , 09:20 AM

Nice_Guy_Eddie

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Join Date: Dec 2010 Posts: 2,135

c/r. I'm assuming V1 usually cbets? With 3 players behind the pfr, you should expect someone to bet the flop. Ideally, V cbets and a couple call, then you pop a big raise.

You should bet into a very passive table. Most of the time you should c/r. And fold pre.

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12-03-2015 , 10:15 AM

Aust1227

journeyman

Join Date: Aug 2015 Posts: 219

C/R to set up a shove on the turn.

If V1 bets $30, V2 Calls.. The pot would be $120 back to you.. You could make it $120.

With a caller the pot is $360 on the turn.. You can jam your remaining $380 and be in perfect shape.

I want stacks in!!

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12-03-2015 , 01:02 PM

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teddyrowe9

old hand

Join Date: Feb 2011 Posts: 1,432

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Originally Posted by Czech Rays

I like this.

Plan to c/r, bet, jam almost all run outs.

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12-03-2015 , 01:48 PM

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TheLiveCrush

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Join Date: Nov 2015 Posts: 14

Hero checks, V1 cbets 20, V2 calls, rest fold.
Hero c/r too ??

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12-03-2015 , 01:54 PM

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teddyrowe9

old hand

Join Date: Feb 2011 Posts: 1,432

Isn't the pot $73 by the way?

$120.

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12-03-2015 , 02:06 PM

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Nice_Guy_Eddie

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Join Date: Dec 2010 Posts: 2,135

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Originally Posted by TheLiveCrush

Hero checks, V1 cbets 20, V2 calls, rest fold.
Hero c/r too ??

Yeah. Pot-sized c/r to $140. You can shove your remaining $350 on any turn.

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12-03-2015 , 03:14 PM

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SwolyswoND

old hand

Join Date: Sep 2014 Posts: 1,976

Grunch

OTF, check. V will c-bet here quite often and you can get some cold callers in between before you send in a large c/r.

Just read the next action. After V1 bets and V2 calls, follow through your plan to c/r. I'd make it $100 on top. I realize this is a little small to have a PSB shove on the turn if we get one caller, but I think this sizing is way more likely to be looked up by an overpair. Any more and I think even some players will consider laying down QQ+. I have no issues with overbet shoving the turn when called, so I wanted to make sure we get at least one flop call, preferably two.

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