Recently lost a BI at 2/5 on the following hand.
I have lost before in similar circumstances both at 1/2 and in tournaments, and I am wondering how to avoid it. Specifically how to play an overpair OOP against a PF raiser who either has 2 high cards or a pocket pair.

H has been at table for half an hr and does not have any reads yet.
H has $480 left of $500 BI

EP limped, MP limped, Villian in BU raised to $30 with at least $800 behind, H calls with 99 in the BB, EP calls, MP calls.

Flop: 8h8s2s, checks to the villian who bets $75, H calls, EP and MP fold.
Turn: Jc, H bets $150, Villian calls
River: 6c, H goes all in for remaining $225, V tank calls.

Don't try to bluff someone off an overpair until you have a read on them. In this hand, just check-fold the flop.

Why are you drinking turn and jamming river with no FE against someone you have no reads on? Gonna go through a lot of buy-ins if you play many similar hands this way.

Check fold this flop against a BTN raise is super nitty. I c/f turn though.

You're trying to get someone to fold an overpair in a ~$600 pot with a $225 bet on the river on that board? Not going to happen. After he calls your turn bet, the hand is over.

The answer to your general question about overpairs to the board OOP against a pre-flop raiser is pretty dependent. Against an OMC, you're folding. Against a LAG, you're trying to get to showdown.

do you think that you are value-betting or bluffing on the turn and river?

He's leading into 3 players. Let somebody else play sheriff.

People cbet this flop with two overs all the time. Or 33-77.

I agree that jamming river is bad. Once he calls the turn lead I'm done with the hand. Maybe c/c river if player is has been caught bluffing rivers and shown overs. I think I'm just playing the nines for set mining. Calling his flop c-bet is okay but i'd rather check turn and try to get to showdown. Few draws out there and if he has overs he's drawing to 6 outs. Don't stack off against unknown V.

flop line is ok, turn is c/fold without reads.

turn donk is bad and accomplishes nothing.

This early it's not good to be stacking off with marginal hands. You don't know if this vill would try a steal raise with limpers already in and blinds he hasn't heard from yet. No idea if he'd do this with the big broadways, the top pairs, suited connectors, or the occasional trash hand.

Flop call to see what the turn brings, and how he plays, is OK. Can't let him think he has an easy steal with a flop c-bet every time we're in. The turn bet is especially bad. No idea if this vill gets stubbornly bluffy with whiffed Broadways. An over card dropped, and that could hit a lot of Broadway hands that whiffed the flop, giving him an overpair to the board.

If you think he'll get bluffy with whiffed Broadways, you c/c as long as little cards drop. You definitely don't want to lead out or raise only to see a big card drop off. Then you'll wish you hadn't done it.

Check turn, fold to bet. Wait until you know more about this guy before trying to put one over. Don't go broke in the first half hour playing marginal hands. I'd probably go nitty in this situation and fold the flop once the set didn't come in.

Thanks for all the replies. I am not clear if I call the flop and then check fold the turn, how do I protect against Villian double barreling with hands like AK or AQ in addition to his over pairs.

Calling the flop here is pretty standard imo.
Donking the turn however, is not.

What are you trying to accomplish?
Do you think that he will call you with worse? And if he will, then he is never folding out better. And there are a lot more better hands that he will call you with, so that can't be a good idea.

If you think that he will out better (which he won't) then we also fold out all sorts of worse hands that we'd rather let him bluff with ott or otr. So again, that can't be a good idea.

Overall, donking the turn in this spot just feels really spewy to me.
And shoving the river feels even worse. If like a Q or T (or better yet, a Spade) then maybe we can ship the river as a bluff (maybe) but I still wouldn't really like it.

Re your last post:
If you think that he will barrel with TT+ and AK/AQ for 2 streets or 3 streets then there are 16 combos of AK and 16 combos of AQ. There are 6x AA, 6x KK, 6x QQ, 3x JJ and 6x TT. So 32 that we beat, and 27 that we lose to, so we should be able to cal ldown profitably, but that changes if we think that he will not be betting all combos of AK/AQ (which I doubt that he is). I think that in reality, calling the flop (or sometimes even just folding the flop) and folding the turn to a second barrel will be fine against most villains. Most villains just do not 2 barrel often enough with air to show a profit.

Tournaments can be different however as we can't top off all the time.
But this is a cash forum.

^ this.

Playing 99 oop as an overpair is a somewhat of an exaggeration. No one calls pf with 99 hoping to flop an overpair, this is a mostly set hand.

I don't think you should be folding every middle pp to a c-bet, but I don't see that calling off the flop bet puts you in a better spot in this hand. Readless, im giving creedence to the bet patterns and giving up with this hand.

Call PF especially of you think EP/MP call. Call flop. The turn is a spot where I prob c/c a small bet and fold to a 1/2 pot or more bet. Your river play is donkaliscious. Sounds like something I would do when extremely intoxicated.

If Villain bets too many AX combos, he dilutes his good hands and you profit by calling down with weak showdown hands. You can also rebluff the bottom of your range, e.g., flush draws.

But in general tough players are tough because their range includes both quads and air and they make you put up money to find out where they are in their range.