Effective Stacks are $425

Villain is Asian 20 something. He has been aggressive in most pots he has played. 1/2 hour earlier he beat me in a pot when I flatted his re-raise OTF with 2 pair. He hit a gut shot that got there OTT and I called a modest value bet OTR.

This hand:

One limper UTG - hero raises to $12 in MP with K K
Folds to Villain in BB who calls, UTG calls.

Flop: ($36) 5 7 T
BB Checks
UTG Checks
Hero Bets $25
BB calls - UTG folds

Turn ($86) 9
BB donks $50


Hero?

Cling on for dear life?

Call turn and then call a bet of up to 120 into 180 on any non-6, non-8, non-J, non-club river.

Consider value-betting 110 into 180 if villain checks the river. Check behind is aso defendable.

I think we have the best hand but I really hate popping it to 170 and then folding to a shove. Its hard for us to rep a hand that is willing to stack off here other than top set (which we wont have that often) and there are plenty of 2-pair type hands and strong draws in villain's range that he is willing to commit with on the turn.

IMO The hands most commonly in villain's range are top pair hands and flush draws which just turned an OESD (and may be prepared to ship stacks to try to get a fold from an overpair). But there are also plenty of occasions where villain has 2 pair+

since you say he's aggressive, his flop calling/turn donking range is very wide in this spot.

you don't give any info besides he is aggressive, i'm going to assume he's loose and is willing to defend his BB with alot of marginal holdings

check call on flop can be any pair any draw, i doubt he has 2pr+ as most players, especially since you say he's aggro will raise these hands on the flop

his donk lead of $50 into $80 on what seems like a scare card is confusing, the hands the 9 completes are 910, 68, 8J, 79, i think that's about it, it's also possible for him to just have a hand like 10J or 10Q that is trying to blocker bet

i agree with nogyong that a turn on the call is mandatory because of villain's wide range, and we will reassess the river depending on what card comes and villain's bet sizing, if he checks the river on a blank, it's a 100% value bet that will hopefully get called by his top pair 10 as i doubt he's creative enough to c/c flop, lead turn then check river with 2pr+

^agreeed..

Yes I could have been more specific about villain. Yes his range is at least any pair suited Q+ any broadways, connected cards and suited gappers and he will try to take the pot on any remotely favorable flop.

Based on limited history with this villain I was pretty convinced he was bluffing / semi-bluffing or perhaps putting me on a big Ace and trying to take the pot right here with some raggy piece of the board or perhaps a small pair.

I was concerned with this villain that if I flatted and another scare card came he was going to fire another barrel and I would have a pretty tough decision.

I think here I may have made that mistake of trying to "protect my hand and not my stack".

Yeah regardless of results, I think this is prudent thinking.

I however decided to re-pop him to $160 which thinking I am going to end the hand right here (I did not have a plan for what to do if he 3bet shoved.)

Villain shoved.

I tanked for about a minute decided I still thought my read was on but now started thinking about haw many outs he could have even if I was right. Other than 5s I really didn't think sets were a big part of his possible holdings. I am pretty sure he usually doesn't play his 99,77 or TT this way.

Can we consider a hero call here?

Well think over the hands you beat! You don't beat 8 10 68 ! Or any set! You only beat Qq lol you can't beat 2 pair so you must lay down!

foldddd. even calling here isn't going to win the hand, we still have a river to come. we hate aprox 297.5 rivers and like exactly 2 of them. Even the 2 we like don't give us the nutz.

To comment #1- That's 18 rivers by my count...so we are just setting money on fire 36% of the time+we are drawing dead here some %.

To comment #2-vbetting would depend on the river greatly. villain may c/c 2pair/sets depending on river. I can't imagine betting it a ton.

Call the turn. Especially with villain's aggro tendencies, folding the turn is really nitty.

Looks like K8cc. Yup, just call it.

Whoops, you have K clubs...A8cc

Comment 1: There are a lot of different factors here but keep in mind we're not always going to face a big river bet. Its not that easy for him to barrel the river with a weaker hand and there are a lot of pair+draw hands he'll plan to check-call with on the river.

Comment 2: fair enough.

So you're advocating a fold to aggro villain's turn donk?

I'm not looking to play miserable river spots (this will be one) with one semi-decent villain at a 1/2 table, so yea I think I'm folding here happily. If villain starts doing this to me, I will adjust, but the fact is that him being aggro doesn't mean he doesn't have something here.

It was a miserable turn card, most rivers are miserable, and I don't see why he donks here without the plan to barrel the river.

Also, no offense to OP, but him being aggro in most pots he played is a good thing. The hand you reference, it kinda sounds like he got tricky otf, got there, and vbet 2 streets. He played it well (from the minimal knowledge i infer there) and maybe you want to think he's an aggro monkey now.

I think I fold. I'm a nit. Nom nom nom

We definitely have to consider a call. We only have to put in 225 to win a pot of 850. That's pot odds of 25%. Even if he has top 2 pair we still have an 18% chance of winning and we're going to have the best hand here some percentage of the time. But its a gross spot...

Meh, even with all the money out there I think its probably a fold. It just seems too likely we're crushed by a straight or a set.

Try and get a read... see if he can give you a big genuine beaming smile (which would be a bad sign for our hand). Come up with a range and stove it?

wish we had waited longer on results.

I fold. We may be near this % needed, but I doubt it. If you raise, it has to be to r/f imo.