So I was at a pretty EZ 10 handed table, with 1 or 2 regs - me - and 7 other fishy players.

I was playing for about 2 hours - and chipped up to about $1320. This was the same table where I raised the AJ hand on the turn.

Villain 1 BB - fishy player who I swear has bet/fold almost every single hand he has played.

Villain 2 Mid position - rebought - almost always ships it so he is a donator.

Villain 3 BTN - was down to $300 but got lucky in a hand and has worked it back up to $800

Hero has not shown down a hand.


Hero is dealt AT in CO.

UTG limps - mid position 1 and 2 limp - I limp - BTN limps - SB completes and BB checks.

7 people see a flop of
$35
T42

Villain 1 $25
Villain 2 call
Hero - $100
BTN tank calls
fold
fold

Turn
$285
A

I debate on what I want to bet, and decide on $175 - I didn't want to go much bigger because I don't think I can get paid but much worse - it looks like he could have a set of 44 or 22. Maybe 35 random T or a flush draw. Not really sure what else he could have in this spot. I think $175 is a pretty good bet vs that range.

Thoughts?

I don't really understand pre. I would just raise ATo in the CO to $30 over 2 limpers.

Once you flat pre, you really don't want to play a huge pot 7-way with TPTK. I probably flat the flop bet.

Yeah i think this is good. Dunno about overlimping. Also i think 75 is fine otf, 100 seems too much for worse Tx to call and FDs OOP, also dont mind min raise or flat to peel a safe turn. 100 seems like the highest we can make it. Great sizing OTT

Think he has clubs a lot. WP

I think this is well-played (if you are going to limp AT from CO).

Why did you raise the flop? It can't really be for value when it sounds like V1 is folding all hands you beat. Also, despite the good texture, you're still 7-ways with one pair in a limped pot.

I'd value bet the river. It's rare for you to be beaten here.

fold pre, raise is ok but kind of wide. Flop raise is correct.

As played, V almost never has 22/44 here because he wouldve probably 3 bet on the flop. Im guessing he has a draw or a weak T. Id charge the draws, fold out the T, and check back river if a flush comes, would probably make it 200 here? also Dont know what stack sizes are.

I haven't read the spoiler yet, but put me down in the raise pre camp. I'm actually 50/50 on the turn raise. We have a lot of good turn cards for us in form of 2 backdoor draws. I like turn sizing as played.

Also @Tomark...I hope the fold pre is a troll, but agree with discounting set combos.

I'm in the hate pre camp. Why not raise to at least get the button out of the hand? (unless he calls everything or squeezes a lot)

AP, flop and turn seems fine, good sizing.

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fold pre or raise pre, folding a good percentage of the time

now i don't know much about V, but i believe a thinking player would almost certainly flat 44/22 (tt apparently in his range too) here especially seeing as he isn't closing the action and otb

Don't limp with ATo+ type hands in position. What are you trying to accomplish? - Draw? ....... see if you hit the flop first? I'm telling you what's gonna happen. 33% you flop and Ace or a Ten. The rest you miss but even when missing the flop you can be creative and take it down but not if you got 3+ villains. The more players, the stronger holding you need to take down a pot.

If you limp or raise there's no difference how the flop comes down. You flop hands or miss the same way in both situations (limp or raise)

Pre is good. You could raise if you have a read people are limping weak hands and then folding pre flop but that's the only way I'd do it, especially in my casino where people don't fold preflop and limp strong hands so ending up in a 5 way raised pot w/ ATo is puke worthy. ATo would be the weakest offsuit ace I would limp.

I feel like a raise on the flop is just an overplay, especially since you have the A. Really what hand is going to call you that you are ahead of (against non-drooler) besides maybe clubs. I also wouldn't want to play a big pot w/ just top pair top kicker.

Turn is a bet because he could have a draw and only 7 combos of sets out there. River I would check unless I boat up because literally nothing can call you that you beat except T4s and T2s if he even has that.

I like raising as others have mentioned.
Just seems weak to be limping here, just because you raise doesnt mean you arw committing yourself to the pot.
Trying to play poker is a lot easier against 1 maybe 2 players than trying to play against 7

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there is a huge difference how the flop comes down. If we limp, we need to hit the flop to continue (then still risk being way behind in a 6 way limped pot). If we raise, our opponent needs to hit the flop. Who's favor are the odds of ~33% that someone hits the flop in? ATo is not a hand that plays well in multi way pots.

raise pre

Lets not get worked up about pre. We spent 5 bucks and have late position and assume a skill edge over most (we study the game). I imagine raise is best in a vacuum but call cant be terrible