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Originally Posted by sauhund
iirc there was this one poster who didn´t really give actually "bad" advice but still had a very flawed thought process, who liked to "redfront" everyone who only slightly disagreed with him. he could also never ever be convinced of taking another line than the one he suggested.
unfortunately, he got banned, but I guess we are seeing some sort of resurrection...
Yes I remember that guy and AFAIK he's still grinding and still almost always the best player at any given poker table.
Meanwhile you have ppl in this thread arguing over whether or not you should raise or call the flop as I'd one play is better than the other. Both plays are losing propositions but not a single poster says fold, even tho its technically correct. You even have one poster saying you should raise more because you're behind. Does that mean we should go all in with 45cc?
The thing is, this is an interesting hand because all three plays lose money, its just that the winning players are turning it into a profit.
Ppl here are talking about baluga whale "thereom" as if its relevant. Anything that is called a theorem should be proven mathematically and the only two thereoms that are relevant are the fundamental theorem of poker, which states that the winner of the game is the player who makes the most money when the position and hands are reversed, and Mortons theorem, which proves that you need a 3 way pot to profitably play a flush draw.
What's important about this hand is that there is no right answer for the flop because we are aware that the bb has 15x as many qx as the sb, so the amt of times we get it 3 way is negligible. Therefore all of our plays are -ev, but isn't poker itself -ev with rake.
I don't think the turn is interesting since shoving is the only play.
I could talk for hours about this flop but my advice is to ask yourself what you would do if you had 45cc instead of JThh. If you are auto-folding then you should just auto fold here too.
This is a flop that you can always float or bluff raise and IMHO,your frequency of each action on this flop should mirror your bluffs. Therefore, I am folding some of the time and not surprised no one has mentioned it