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03-05-2012 , 06:09 AM
Live 1/2 NLHE

Villain 1 $351 (UTG+1) is a 18 year old and is loose aggressive preflop, but will fold to a 3 bet.

Villain 2 $700 (CO) is 40-50 years old and is loose passive, But feels he is a great player and capable of making a move (some of which have given him his stack). Villain 2 is the subject of my question, since he and I are the only post flop action.

Villain 3 $51 (SB) is super loose and will get it in with Any 2 here.

Hero has QTs (BB) Normally, I don't like to play OOP, but I felt weakness from V1 and V2 and was trying to ISO Villain 3 all-in.

Preflop
V1 Raises to $11, V2 Calls, V3 calls, Hero 3 raises to $51, V1 Folds, V2 Calls, and V3 calls all-in.

Flop 962r $165
Hero is OOP in a huge pot, Hero?

I would like responses as what to do at this point, as well as what to do if villain raises flop, or if checked back what to do on the turn?
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03-05-2012 , 06:14 AM
Assuming you cover V2, I guess bet otf to try to get it heads up? Or just give up already.

Not sure what advice you are after, seems like reads were important and you were the only one here at the table so...
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03-05-2012 , 06:37 AM
Do you really think Q-high is beating V3's range so substantially that it warrants anything but giving up here? Side pot doesn't exist. Don't create one just to chase it IMO.
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03-05-2012 , 06:45 AM
Agreed.
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03-05-2012 , 12:52 PM
You have three really loose guys in a raised pot, making a 3 bet OOP with QT off is really poor. This sounds like a group to TAG, not LAG.
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03-05-2012 , 02:18 PM
Can I ask you what your trying to do here exactly?
Your trying to ISO OOP with Q high.
QTs is a drawing hand, not an ISO hand.

Also where was this? I live in florida myself and love to play at hardrock and isles 1/2
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03-05-2012 , 04:43 PM
What exactly was your plan when you popped to $51? take down a $33 pot?

Now you're OOP and flopped air with Q High.

The only option i can see if you are continuing your screwy line is to C Bet - i'd probably lead out for the $85 -$105 range, and fold if he shoves.

I'll be in Ft Myers at the end of the month, where is a good place to play?
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03-05-2012 , 04:54 PM
1/2 isn't the greatest game to make plays like this. However, the biggest problem with your play here is your logic in making it is backwards. You made this to isolate the short-stack when the reason you should NOT have made this play is because there is a short-stack who will most likely call you. Q-10 is not a strong hand and making a play here should be to take down dead money in the pot but this isn't likely to work with a short stack in the hand.

Anyways, check the flop and hope you hit top pair or pick up a straight/flush draw on the turn.
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