2/5 1.1k eff

I open in hj TTds to 20, co makes it 50, I contemplate 4 betting but just flat since this guy plays many hands but 3bets little. He’s aggressive post. Have seen him raise merged otf.

110-flop: 986xdd

I donk 50, quick call

210-turn: 4x

120, 320

Sounds like a fish who has AA-KK. Therefore not a fan of donk lead as they are never folding. Check call is probably standard. Check-raise is spicy if we want to start telling a story and blow them off an OP. A lot of good turns for our perceived range that we can blast huge and apply max pressure. If the player is a station I lean to check call flop and evaluate.

As played what do u do?

I can't tell what the 120,320 means after the turn play. Did you bet and get raised? If so then bail on TT unless villain has a history of big bluffs. Then you have to make a read and go with it.
Preflop you need to recognize there is a big element of set mining to your call. There are not a lot of other flops you like when villain has a good number of higher pairs. Your hand is too good to just fold all the time on the flop but you should be mixing check/call and check/fold. Your hand isn't good enough for a call down against an aggressive (but not maniac) villain.

Check and kick myself for the bad flop play.

So I think his 3bet range is half JJ,qq+/AK that’s it. I donked flop to protect against over cards when he has AK and set my own price when he has the rest. This way even when I don’t improve I can continue later with a story that makes sense. I have made the same play before with a set in a spot where the 3bettor is tight. Obviously xraising is best with value but here I thought I could get folds without bloating the pot oop with a xraise.

I guess you’re donk-betting small to fold if he raises? And now you’re not sure what to do after he raised your small donk bet? But didn’t you already know the answer—isn’t that why you donk bet twice in the first place?

Why would he raise? Would you raise this flop with an overpair?
And yea I’m prolly folding if he raises cuz he doesn’t have bluffs

I would raise a tiny donk bet on this flop roughly 100% of the time, yes, with both overpairs and overcards. IME it’s always the exact sort of hand Hero has here (medium strength hand or draw praying for a cheap showdown, “I’m only going to bet a third of the pot so the 3-better can’t bet full-pot!”)

Did you bet turn for 120 and get raised to 320? You have 6 outs with 44 cards in the deck. You need the pot to hit about $1500 not including your river bet to make the $200 call profitable if he is never bluffing. Which means if a 7 or 10 rolls off will he call a river donk jam 90% of the time? Because either of those cards will slow him down so no chance he bets river 90% of the time and calls a jam. Seems like a clear fold if 120, 320 means you bet that and he raised.

Post flop is an atrocity

Yea I continued for 120 and he made it 320.

What hands call flop but decide to raise turn? Is this more indicative of value or bluffs? What do we think of 3betting to put max pressure on the overpairs?

at 2/5 and below I dont think it is wise to try to get someone off of an overpair or even top pair top kicker. Not saying it cant work vs some players or didnt work here,

I would say he can have 77 all the way up to AA the way he played it. Depends how loose he ever gets with his three bets and how he sees you.

Agree. You’re asking to either get bluffed off the best hand or taken to value town. Fold AP but Jesus this hand was butchered.

Respect position and the fact you don’t have it.

The hand is played in a nonstandard way but I dont think it is bad when I am specifically mentioning he is capped to one pair and I balance my donk range (in the rare instances I see fit using one) with nutted hands. If I fold to the turn raise it is about the same thing as going x/call, x/fold when he goes 2/3, 2/3 (mostly what he does with all his hands as he is trigger happy post). Instead of going that route (which is what everyone is suggesting) I wanted to neutralize his positional advantage with the fact that I have all the super nuts and he does not. When I get to the turn this way and he raises, what pct of the time does he have bluffs? Does his value (AA/KK) call flop and then raise turn when nothing has changed? Will his value hold on if I 3bet jam for 700 more?

Are we bet-betting to target whiffed overcards? To set the price?

Against an aggressive player, rather let them keep betting full range and call at least two streets.

As played, probably sadface fold

Pre I wouldn't at all be thinking about 4betting. You said he barely 3bets, so his range is very tight, and if we 4bet he's probably 5bet jamming, are we comfortable to call that? If not, flat pre and if we do flop a set and he's aggressive post flop we're getting easily paid off. If we have to fold to a 5bet jam we lose out on a great opportunity in poker to crack aces with a set for 220 bb's.

I don't like donking out, I would check and sometimes guys like this bet pot or more, and we can easily fold.

As played fold otr ainec at all.