1/3 NLHE 9 handed.

V - Never seen him before. Old asian man. Has been limp calling pre about 50% of hands and limp folding pre the other 50%. Haven't seen any showdowns. Haven't seen him raise or open once. About 1-2 hours together at this point. CO. 315$.

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V opens 20 when folded to (normal for the table would be 10-15), folds to Hero in BB who sees J J and decides to just call and see where this is going.

Flop 40 - A 9 4

I check, V bets 30, I call

Turn 100 - 7

I check, V bets 30, I x/r jam for his remaining 235...

Pre is mid vs. stack size, flop seems like spew.


V is super likely to have AA or maybe KKs and going to sigh call in both cases.
If you bluffed him off on the turn it still doesn't make up for the flop call IMO.

I wouldnt attack the guy who hasnt raised or opened once who suddenly opens large sizing and goes 3/4 on flop.

Against this guy I dont think flop call is good with the current information we have. Hes not a studied reg who will be cbetting frequently most likely.

As played though, i can exploitatively get on board with the turn play because we have a spade and his turn bet screams weakness.

What sucks though is that so many players like this that are pretty nitty as far as what they open raise preflop will just not be able to fold hands post. Like he might only open raise QQ+ and AK and just always go to the felt with it.

I was seated to the left of this player type last night and he would always show me his hand when i was out of the action. He literally only open raised AA and KK, i saw him limp call QQ, saw him limp call AK even, and if he didn't have an opening strength hand he would limp and fold to a raise even if it was only 5 more to call 5 ways. But on multiple occasions he called all the way down with TT/JJ w an overcard to the board or an obviously beat TPTK.

So I worry your villain will think hes beat and still call w Ax anyway

Yeah, this seems bad. Looking to make a play just because you have JJ. When someone is sort of face up, use that to get out of his way when he is showing strength. You might get him to fold KK/QQ without a spade, but not AA or AK. He obviously did slow down when the 3-flush hit.

When someone plays that face up, sure call with JJ. If you make a set, you can probably stack him. If it is a low flop, You can call a cbet and try to figure out if he has a higher pp or maybe AK/AQ/TT. When it comes A high and he cbets 3/4 pot, really easy fold. Even if he didn't have such a tight range, you probably need to fold the flop in this spot.

Dude, WTF are you doing? This is superfantastic mega spew.

Flat call pre is okay, because we're deep enough to set mine. But that's all we're doing here. We flop a set and go with it, or we're done with this hand.

Flop is ace-high, and he bets 75% pot? Nowhere in the infinite multiverse do we have the correct odds to continue here. This is AA, all day.

The turn is actually interesting. He goes same bet on the three flush board, and I smell top set getting a little puckered up.

I understand where your head is at, but we're getting such a fantastic price to flat call and try to make a flush. Why in the serious f**k would you jam all in? A turned flush isn't jamming. It would put in a little juicer raise to set up a river jam. A small raise is going to scare him more than a jam.

Your turn jam looks bluffy as hell, and this dude didn't limp into every hand for the last two hours to fold top set.

Go home, Banana. You're drunk.

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Fold flop for sure, doesn’t seem close at all given player profile. Turn is lol, he is going to have a better hand with a better spade so often.

Fold flop is obvious.

Turn would be interesting if it wasn't another spade, meaning he probably won't fold KK with a spade.

That's one of the spots where reads/history helps tremendously. I know a couple players against who c/shove is 100% the current play here.

the only reason for calling the flop would be to bluff this turn, so w/e. im guessing it works enough.

Result:

99?

Did not see that coming.

I'm fine with preflop given read / no other dead money / no other equity to deny.

I just check/fold the flop. Pretty much the only hands that we were ahead of are now ahead and its a chunky bet.

This guy's minimum hand on the turn is probably Ax with a flush draw. Good luck attempting to get his lower part of his range to fold (let alone his upper part), imo.

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I raise pre but that's just me.

I don't mind the call otf since we flatted pre but once he bets again I would fold, and these bluffs usually work better on rivers when they know they don't have any more outs to possibly come.

Pre is totally a flat call. On the A9 flop, knowing he has a strong range, what are you beating? TT or 88. Unlikely he makes it 20 cold with suited broadway and then bets large on the ace high flop. There are much better bluffing situations.