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01-28-2011 , 05:02 PM
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Originally Posted by iLikeCaliDonks
"You learn more from losing then winning"
then I must be the most knowlegable pokers player in da whole world!
01-28-2011 , 05:16 PM
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Originally Posted by stampler
then I must be the most knowlegable pokers player in da whole world!
Lol, as long as you learn from your mistakes. Watch film on championship caliber players you should be ok.

Also learn from the bums at your local casino to.
01-28-2011 , 05:17 PM
If durrr and Ivey had some sort of million dollar prop bet where as they had to grind 200nl on FT for a month (and the biggest winner collected the money) do u think they would play the same way the do at $500/$1K or do u think they'd adopt a more straight forward style?
01-28-2011 , 05:27 PM
To be honest ivey is the most straightforward player out there. Durrrr is just the best oop player out there.

I think they would still play the same. They're poker players, they play at the highest level. They can kill any game.


I know you guys are like wow, this guy is stupid. But do people call peyton manning stupid because he studied film on rex ryans dad buddy Ryan. Even though they was playing the 2011 jets and not the 85 bears.
01-28-2011 , 05:38 PM
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Originally Posted by iLikeCaliDonks
But I look at poker like a sport(it is on espn).
I forget how it goes, but something along the lines of .. in sports you can more than likely pick out the winner of the game based on talent and abilities of each team. In poker.... you can't do that. And thats why poker is not a sport, but rather a game where there is luck involved. Sports is skill with little to no luck, while Poker is skill with a pretty big amount of luck.
01-28-2011 , 05:44 PM
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Originally Posted by AcePlayerDeluxe
I forget how it goes, but something along the lines of .. in sports you can more than likely pick out the winner of the game based on talent and abilities of each team. In poker.... you can't do that. And thats why poker is not a sport, but rather a game where there is luck involved. Sports is skill with little to no luck, while Poker is skill with a pretty big amount of luck.
You must be crazy, you ever heard that term that's why they play the game. Come on now.

Some internet bum, well he was good forgot his name. The guy crushes online. He wanted to play Phil ivey heads up in bobbys room. Last year at the world series.

He said the match took 10mins. Maybe if he would have watched film instead of playing online. Maybe he would have had a chance.

Basically what I'm saying is don't be stubborn.
01-28-2011 , 05:49 PM
I watched wallstreet to learn how to trade....not I'm a millionaire

Calis right.

Btw....t.v came before the internet...are you from the 50's?
01-28-2011 , 06:21 PM
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Originally Posted by iLikeCaliDonks
Lol, as long as you learn from your mistakes. Watch film on championship caliber players you should be ok.

Also learn from the bums at your local casino to.
so, i'm grasshopper now??

(guess i'm showing my age, anyone remember Kung Fu?)

Last edited by stampler; 01-28-2011 at 06:35 PM.
01-28-2011 , 06:26 PM
take a step back ILCD,
there is a MASSIVE flaw in your 'logic' on this TV BS.

everyone here can see it but you, and I mean everyone.
we are still waiting 4 someone to back you on this flight of fantasy.
look really hard, and if you are sincere, and really try, hopefully you will see it, for all of our sakes.

^^^
listen to these guys, it's not just random that we are ALL saying the same thing:

"forget everything you ever saw on TV if you want to beat LS"

honestly, i don't even care if you get it, outside of the fact that its so damn annoying to read about your TV viewing, we are literally wincing.
have a nice day.

not to be harsh, but i just unignored u recently, and i'm currently reevaluating that decision.

Last edited by stampler; 01-28-2011 at 06:37 PM.
01-28-2011 , 06:28 PM
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Originally Posted by stampler
so, i'm grasshopper now??
Idk what that means. I'm from California they don't use those terms out west.
01-28-2011 , 06:29 PM
West side?
01-28-2011 , 06:33 PM
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Originally Posted by stampler
take a step back ILCD,
there is a MASSIVE flaw in your 'logic' on this TV BS.

everyone here can see it but you.
look really hard, and if you are sincere, and really try, hopefully you will see it, for all of our sakes.

listen to these guys, it's not just random that we are ALL saying the sam thing.
"forget everything you ever saw on TV if you want to beat LS"

have a nice day.
Like I been saying, its my logic. I treat poker like a sport.

I love to hear when guys make the final table. They studied all the film on the other players. Why you think they say that? Its because when on film you can't hide your flaws.

But ill agree to disagree with the forums.

When I make it big one day, ill come back on this forum. To tell you guys my logic. Maybe you guys will listen then.
01-28-2011 , 06:38 PM
LOL i have ILCD ignored but it still shows when u guys quote him AND I FCKEN LOVE IT ILCD KEEP UP THE GOOD WORK
01-28-2011 , 06:40 PM
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Originally Posted by iLikeCaliDonks
Idk what that means. I'm from California they don't use those terms out west.
YOUTUBE Kung Fu, the old TV show.

there is prolly more in it that you could apply to LLS than watching superstar plyrs play a game that none of us play.

really, the only similarity btwn LLS and nosebleeds is that we both have

1) chairs
2) chips
3) cards

and thats it.


now, someone pleeeze change to topic of of conversation, i'm getting nauseous.
01-28-2011 , 06:42 PM
Why ignore a guy with personality. I'm a cool dude straight up. Love poker, love to talk poker. No need to ignore me. But I'm way more humble in real life. But still an outstanding personality.
01-28-2011 , 06:45 PM
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Originally Posted by iLikeCaliDonks
Like I been saying, its my logic. I treat poker like a sport.

I love to hear when guys make the final table. They studied all the film on the other players. Why you think they say that? Its because when on film you can't hide your flaws.
I've got some film footage i can sell you of that old asian lady at commerce who sits on her purse.
Gold.
01-28-2011 , 06:45 PM
Stampler, where do you live? What casino do you play at?
01-28-2011 , 06:47 PM
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Originally Posted by stampler
I've got some film footage i can sell you of that old asian lady at commerce who sits on her purse.
Gold.
If it aint ivey or durrrr I have no interest in it.

Does anyone know how to get wsop film. That they don't show on TV?
01-28-2011 , 06:48 PM
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Originally Posted by iLikeCaliDonks
Why ignore a guy with personality. I'm a cool dude straight up. Love poker, love to talk poker. No need to ignore me. But I'm way more humble in real life. But still an outstanding personality.
good for you,
I'm arrogant, a loser, and a rotten person all around. not bitter about it, tho
I'm the friggin mayor of bustoville!
01-28-2011 , 06:50 PM
Lmao
01-28-2011 , 06:51 PM
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Originally Posted by iLikeCaliDonks
Stampler, where do you live? What casino do you play at?
I live under a bridge, and I'm playin you
heads up 4 rollz when I'm down in LA next week in the parking lot at Commerce.
brush up on your PLO game, kid!
01-28-2011 , 06:54 PM
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Originally Posted by stampler
I live under a bridge, and I'm playin you
heads up 4 rollz when I'm down in LA next week in the parking lot at Commerce.
brush up on your PLO game, kid!
Lol your funny, we can play for rollz. How bout a mix, holdem and plo. Those the only games ill play for rollz.
01-28-2011 , 06:54 PM
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Originally Posted by iLikeCaliDonks
Yeah I hear your internet lingo. But someone ask ivey what was EV? Ivey said what's the logic behind that. He explained it to him. Then ivey said "I get it". Which was truly a level. The pros don't care about EV. Why? Because if they're all in. It may not be a next time. When it comes down to it EV is just internet lingo. That no pro cares about.
Head asplode!

You show me a professional poker player that doesn't care about EV, and I'll show you trust-fund baby with a gambling problem.
01-28-2011 , 06:58 PM
Well they have a topic in nvg. Search it skalansky ask ivey what was ev. Ivey said what does that mean. Skalansky said its ecpected value, ivey said ok, then skalansky said its blah blah blah. Ivey said I get it. True 2+2 story. You been gone for awhile. But nvg 2+2ers where so mad. Because they base they're game on EV
01-28-2011 , 07:11 PM
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Originally Posted by iLikeCaliDonks
Well I'm on an internet forum. So I think the answer to your question is no.

But I look at poker like a sport(it is on espn). Film review is by far the best tool. Just ask any sports person.

I just watched the pca final table. They had all the cards, somewhat live. It was by far the best information ever. Truly poker is moving to new heights. But if yall want to learn from books and other peoples failures on forums. Then that's your game not mine.

I know one thing, if you can't learn from watching pros on film. Like pad, wsop, highstakes poker or some kid posting fulltilt videos. Then you need a new understanding of poker.

Its nothing like watching the best of the best. Then breaking down what you think they're thinking.

Phil or durrrr not gonna right a book. So how else are you suppose to think at a higher level.
Dude seriously just stop, stop posting, its not a contest to see who gets the most posts. Read and stop arguing with solid winning players like ANL, and the insults need to stop too.

Poker is not a sport like football or basketball where you gain solid and useful information from watching films of it. Poker is primarily a mental game, with elements of randomness and unknown information. You cant even really compare it to chess, where you can gain something from watching matches or replaying a match. So until they start having each player give a detailed description of their play in each hand, its not even close to comparable.

So now I am going to make ANL rollover... well twitch a little maybe

There is some very limited value in watching poker on TV. IMO it is primarily limited to... 1) Keep a person motivated to reach higher levels 2) Can be a good example of how badly some people can play 3) learning to see common mistakes. And last, for someone that is just starting to play poker, it has value in learning the most basic of skills, like how to bet, reading the board, acting in order, etc.

Also stop comparing tournament poker to cash game poker. If a ME winner came here and wanted to give us all lessons on LLSNL poker, there might be 2-3 in the past ten years I would be interested in hearing from.

      
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