Not sure if getting 3 buy ins all in preflop with KK is +EV.


Also you all get quads more often live than I do online. Did hit my first 1 outer this month though.

Are you talking about my hand? I had AA.

Yes, I was fortunate in that I could read his soul.

Oh nice.

I thought usually when the < faces a hand it means that hand won.

it's still AT

lolol no.

Anyways, both hightimejohns hand and the random suited crap illustrates nicely the problem with poker and human learning. Inconsistent reward ftl.

sometimes you read someone's soul.

Yes they still have a range, but something tells you it's weighted one way more than the other.

I wrote it incorrectly. Should have been AA > KK.

I have made two soul read hero calls with marginal holdings the past two weeks and both of them are likely -EV

300NL
Hand 1:
I have played with the guy for an hour or two. He plays in a lot of home games and like "knows moves" but isn't very good at them if that makes sense. Villain has like 250ish behind.

2 limpers, Hero raises KJ to 15
Folds to villain who calls

Flop is 652
Villain checks
Hero bets 20
Villain Calls

Turn is a brick (I would have fired an over card but I just didn't feel like barreling here was going to be very effective and if I do I feel like I have to shove the river)
Check check

River is an offsuit J
Villain checks
Hero bets 45
Villain kind of mutters "I thought you had nothing the entire way..."
then after tanking for like a minute he clicks it back to 90 (45 to call)

I'm like wtf and tank and call since how does he not bet the river if he has a strong made hand on the flop and with what he said I'm like "**** it I'll pay you off" and he raps the table and shows the whiffed NFD

(ATs)

Soul read #2
500NL - Hero has ATos in the BB

Table is weak, 4 limpers with one guy (villain) who posts in the HJ after winning a bit of cash at 300NL

I check the BB (6 ways to the flop)
Flop is T6x

Check, I bet 25 and it folds to villian who calls, the rest fold

Turn is the 2 (pot is like 80)

I bet 45, villain calls

River is the 8

I have no idea what villain has but I'm like b/f I have TPTK

I bet 75 (pot is like 170)
Villain immediately clicks it back to 150

I'm like wtf, his line makes no sense unless he backed into two pair but most people aren't calling 2 streets with t8os or he has 6xhh and turned a FD and I figured all the big made hands are raising the turn so I called and he tables k6os. I don't recall the flop exactly but there was no straight on the board.

Yeah I know, I'm a station

Last night? If so, this was the table next to me, I think. Seemed pretty jovial. I can't imagine jumping into it, though. Granted I'm playing 1/2 and have no roll.

arggh reading someone's soul doesn't mean turning your hand into a bluff and then calling because you still think they have nothing.

I love it when they put you on a steal, and make a stand w/ the T5o PF.
its the old 'bluff call'. lol/

funny story heard at the table in Vegas the other day:

young pro makes a big raise

rich lady (who knows what shes doing btw) calls.

young pro: "you called?"

rich lady: "I have a lot more disposable income than you."



who do you think got stacked in this hand?? LOL.

I love when the rich old people take out the young "pros"

Its not funny bro, I lose all the time to rich people. It pisses me off. Lost big to some rich dude from big bear. I'm still hot about it. I always miss out on good tables.

but the young 'pros' are entitled to win cuz theyve lived in vegas for 16 months...

and if youre from out of town, you obv suck at the pokers, cuz there is no poker outside of vegas, (when the opposite is actually true.)
if you move to vegas for the poker 'action', you are prolly a tard (and a pathetic weak-tight tourist-slayer).

OMGOMGOMG
this is SOOOOOOOO funny.

this made my day.

Check out this hand. After I lost my first buyin of 300. I buy back in and run my stack up to 1200.

LAG opens for 25, 2 callers, I 3bet to 125 OTB with QQ, "RG" calls in sb he has 3k, LAG calls he has 1500.

Flop J 9 6

Hero bets 150, "RG" raises to 450$, lag folds, I snap shove.

Turn 8 rich guys says. "Heart"

River 3

Rich guy from big bear says I got there turns over K J

I almost puked, I said "you lucky bitch, how can you make that play" he says, "I needed to see where I was at", I lol in his face. Dude was ******ed but also used poker cruncher at the table, smh.

Yeah that is pretty *ahem* rich. The best advice you are going to get is to abandon the concepts of "fish" and "suckers" and just look at them as players who are playing a game who have their strengths and weaknesses.

The truth of the matter is that we are rarely the smartest person at the table, we might just have put more time and effort into a gambling game.

So you didn't want to get all the money in as a big favorite?

Is it poor etiquette to change tables at 1/2 with a big stack?

I quickly built my stack to $800 (all other stacks were < 100bb) and saw a table that was much better than mine, but I didn't move to it because I thought maybe some of the players would get mad that I was taking a lot of their money off the table. And also I wasn't sure how the people at the new table would react to me moving from a "hot seat" and not "playing my rush".

My guess is no one cares, but I've never seen anyone with > $500 request a table change at 1/2 before, and just want to be sure. Thanks

If moving tables is +EV then do it

I didn't want the to come dude. I was waiting for that hand. If the hand plays out normal, I don't lose my whole stack. That was the whole point in me saying "how can you make that play".

Again, did you or did you not want to get it in on the flop? You wanted him to make that play so don't get pissed when he does. It is a game of chance and you got it in as a favorite and lost (which was bound to happen he had like 22% equity) so who cares.

You saying "how can you make that play" is incredibly fishy and makes you a poor player and it makes you play poorer. You need to learn to separate the results from the decision and accept variance instead of getting upset like a little kid who lost a toy.

I insta snapped otf, but 240bbs with a pair is not my style.

I would rather him call, flop, turn and me fold river.

lol you have got to be kidding me

Yeah I'm just not sure if it is +ev or not. I don't know if the immediate money I make by moving tables outweighs the money I lose longterm by making fish uncomfortable and angering the regfish. It's a small poker room (only 8 tables) and a lot of people recognize me there so I don't want to ruffle feathers by taking a small edge.