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03-07-2011 , 11:02 AM
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Originally Posted by iLikeCaliDonks
Education: I love to learn, love to know how and why something works. I never been a math guy but when I found poker to be good you have to use math. Noway around it.
I swear there is a post you made a long time ago that said Math is not neccessary or something like that. But w/e.... I guess....

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Originally Posted by 8o8
you know, i agree. the saying should be redacted to:

"Poker is a hard way to make an easy living. But not harder than living in the hood."

more accurate
You just gave life to a new 2p2 epic saying. Congrats sir.

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Originally Posted by iLikeCaliDonks
Well its either be a rapper or a poker player.
HUFreestyle4ROLLZ?
03-07-2011 , 02:35 PM
@AcePlayerDeluxe naw you misquoted me. "I said it takes more then math to be good at poker, it takes everything to be good at poker".

Wow there is like 4 AK HH. Most are in straddled pots. I remember when I used to have problems with AK. Until I lost big money with it. Learn from my mistakes. The key to AK is position. If you don't have position try to see a cheap flop. Or use aggression oop if its a fit/fold game on the flop. AK is a lovely hand to play poker with. It plays well to the river especially suited. You can float flops with it or reraise with it oop. It all depends on the players and what there stack off or calling range is.

AK in position, well someone can write a book on it. Its not going to be me. AK and the button just too many options.
03-07-2011 , 04:27 PM
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Originally Posted by iLikeCaliDonks
Let me say this before people misunderstand me.

I play for a lot of reasons. But let's just put em in order.

I play poker because: I want the best for myself. I've always been great at games. Been in sports my whole life, I'm about 6"4 and quite frankly poker is my last chance to ever get on ESPN ima sports fanatic. I'm unemployed and a college dropout. So I'm dedicated its poker or continue to live a poor life. There is no gamble in my game because I have nothing.

Education: I love to learn, love to know how and why something works. I never been a math guy but when I found poker to be good you have to use math. Noway around it.

I love to compete: nothing toots my boat more then beating someone else in anything. I just love to win and to know why and how I won.

Other Pros: this is a big one for me. I have friends but they are friends not poker players. I play this game to meet highlevel players and form friendship in something we both have in common. Passion is a must in my world of theory. If you don't have passion to really make it. I don't really have anything to say to you.

Money: its great to have and would be great for my kids as well. I live a poor life and if I work hard maybe one day ill be semi rich don't even have to be super rich.

Being a self employed persona: this is last but huge in my thinking. If I can get myself to where everything is taken care of. On and away from the table. Those seem to me are achievable goals.

Thoughts?
You would be much much much better off taking just 1/2 the energy you're putting towards poker and working towards getting a full-time stable job, and simply having poker as a recreational activity. Seriously. And it ain't even close.

(and I'm not just directing that at you; it's basically sound advice for anyone considering poker as their sole means of making money)

Gfreeadvice,takeitforwhatit'sworthG
03-07-2011 , 04:48 PM
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Originally Posted by gobbledygeek
You would be much much much better off taking just 1/2 the energy you're putting towards poker and working towards getting a full-time stable job, and simply having poker as a recreational activity. Seriously. And it ain't even close.

(and I'm not just directing that at you; it's basically sound advice for anyone considering poker as their sole means of making money)

Gfreeadvice,takeitforwhatit'sworthG
I've retired from work playa. I did that life for 9 years.

Poker for recreational why? The game is not fun like that, only when 2 drunks are playing. Or some hot asian chick with fake boobs is telling everyone how freaky she is.

I do actual fun stuff in my recreational time.

If you play poker for recreation that's coo. Or want to work a regular job. That's cool too. But you know my screen name. Why would you ever want me to go work at mcdonalds or lifting some boxes in a warehouse some where. I want the best for people anybody close to this site should shoot for being a low level pro. Its all attainable goals with the proper education and dedication You probably live a nice life have a lot of opportunities. I don't have that luxury. I make good money playing poker. Right now I'm laying down my foundation for a poker player. But you want to talk about jobs and be all negative.

Well look here my dude, stay positive in life, with passion, time and high level thinking you can anything you want to be. Just because you don't think you can play for a living. Doesn't mean its not the best opportunity for me.
03-07-2011 , 05:00 PM
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Originally Posted by AcePlayerDeluxe
You just gave life to a new 2p2 epic saying. Congrats sir.


everyones ignoring my brag in BBV tho
03-07-2011 , 05:04 PM
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Originally Posted by iLikeCaliDonks
I've retired from work playa. I did that life for 9 years.
Wow, 9 whole years, good for you. Welcome to life. Do I recall you having mentioned kids to support? Wow.

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Originally Posted by iLikeCaliDonks
Well look here my dude, stay positive in life, with passion, time and high level thinking you can anything you want to be.
What a bunch of magic pixie dust garbage; who sold you on that? Just buck up, be a man, and do your best to get yourself an attainable and life/family sustaining job while pursuing your passions in your non-work time to keep you sane.

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Originally Posted by iLikeCaliDonks
Just because you don't think you can play for a living. Doesn't mean its not the best opportunity for me.
Lol at the idea that poker is anyone's "best opportunity".

Good luck.

Gstillnotconvincedthisisn'tallonebiglevelG
03-07-2011 , 05:19 PM
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Originally Posted by gobbledygeek
Wow, 9 whole years, good for you. Welcome to life. Do I recall you having mentioned kids to support? Wow.



What a bunch of magic pixie dust garbage; who sold you on that? Just buck up, be a man, and do your best to get yourself an attainable and life/family sustaining job while pursuing your passions in your non-work time to keep you sane.



Lol at the idea that poker is anyone's "best opportunity".

Good luck.

Gstillnotconvincedthisisn'tallonebiglevelG
If you call 1300 post, or being a poker player a level, then yes this is a level LOL.
03-07-2011 , 06:12 PM
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Originally Posted by iLikeCaliDonks
1300 post
that would just make it a BIG level
03-07-2011 , 06:37 PM
iLCD... you know what just blows my mind? You can post here, and in other threads and come off as a reasonable, condierate and inteligent person. Then you spout off some totally crazy insane BS like this. Its almost like there are two people using this SN on 2+2.

I have done lots and lots of different jobs in my life, some I absolutely hated and couldn't get out of them fast enough, others I like doing so much that co-workers or the boss would have to remind me to go home.

I have also played poker for a living a couple times in my life and I can tell ya no matter how positive your attitude is, it is a draining and very stressful. And for the vast majority of people dreaming of "hitting it big" in poker are the same as the old lady that plays the loto every week dreaming about what she would do if she won it.

Seriously invest a grand into a good PC and some books and get you some MS certs and go get a job making $15-$20 an hour to start. Get a couple years hands on experience, and you can move up the food chain and within ~10 years could easily be making $100K+ a year with excellent benefits in the SoCal area. If you are interested I would be glad to get you started down the road to a career in IT, all you got to do is ask.

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Originally Posted by iLikeCaliDonks
I've retired from work playa. I did that life for 9 years.

Poker for recreational why? The game is not fun like that, only when 2 drunks are playing. Or some hot asian chick with fake boobs is telling everyone how freaky she is.

I do actual fun stuff in my recreational time.

If you play poker for recreation that's coo. Or want to work a regular job. That's cool too. But you know my screen name. Why would you ever want me to go work at mcdonalds or lifting some boxes in a warehouse some where. I want the best for people anybody close to this site should shoot for being a low level pro. Its all attainable goals with the proper education and dedication You probably live a nice life have a lot of opportunities. I don't have that luxury. I make good money playing poker. Right now I'm laying down my foundation for a poker player. But you want to talk about jobs and be all negative.

Well look here my dude, stay positive in life, with passion, time and high level thinking you can anything you want to be. Just because you don't think you can play for a living. Doesn't mean its not the best opportunity for me.
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Originally Posted by iLikeCaliDonks
If you call 1300 post, or being a poker player a level, then yes this is a level LOL.
03-07-2011 , 07:09 PM
Lol this dude said 10 years. Yes I have a lot of personalities. I been that way my whole life. You have to blend in with your surroundings where I'm from. I'm going to act different with different crowds.


So sometimes I have these rants on here. Especially when dudes think I can't do it. I have everything going against me. Trust, more then you can imagine. If someone wanted stake me I would do it. One way or another I know I can make it. Whether I get staked or I make it on my own. You got to put in the time to make it



Poker is my passion as soon as my eyes are open I want to read some poker or play some poker. I'm happy to just to go the casino. Its way better then lookin at ugly girls and grimey dudes all day.

I know its not a fairytale. This is my life. I went broke twice in the last year. Its hard, trust me, I'm in cruise control right now hopefully it stays that way. If I go broke ima try, try and try again.

That's how I view poker, yall play games on here, this is my life, all I do is get laughed at or called a level. If you don't think my drive is real then yall need to go back to college.
03-07-2011 , 08:15 PM
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Originally Posted by iLikeCaliDonks
Lol this dude said 10 years.
So what you are saying is that you are sure you will make more playing poker than you will in an IT career in the next 10 years. You are smoking crack if you think that...

The first couple of years you will make somewhere between $40K and $50K on a help desk/desktop support role. When you move to the server admin role you should be making somewhere between $50K and $70K. Get lots of hands on experience as a systems admin, pick up a specialty along the way and you will be making $100K. With lots of hard work and dedication you could be in that role in 5 years, but most people take around 10 years to get to that level.

Now that is with health insurance, life insurance, retirement account, 1-4 weeks of paid vacation a year and maybe even stock options, which basically brings the real yearly income up by 10% to 25% on average.

And this is all working behind a keyboard, no lifting, no flipping burgers, no dealing with obnoxious people (well at least after you get on the server side), no working under the hot sun or cold winter. Most work in IT is more or less self directed so no boss breathing down your neck all day, many jobs can be done remotely, its not uncommon to have IT staff only work in the office 10-20 hours a week.

If you think you can get all that from playing poker, go for it, but remember someone was willing to help you get started, and you flat out ignored them.
03-07-2011 , 08:28 PM
Hook me up with that IT job lol
03-07-2011 , 08:37 PM
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Originally Posted by Percula
So what you are saying is that you are sure you will make more playing poker than you will in an IT career in the next 10 years. You are smoking crack if you think that...

The first couple of years you will make somewhere between $40K and $50K on a help desk/desktop support role. When you move to the server admin role you should be making somewhere between $50K and $70K. Get lots of hands on experience as a systems admin, pick up a specialty along the way and you will be making $100K. With lots of hard work and dedication you could be in that role in 5 years, but most people take around 10 years to get to that level.

Now that is with health insurance, life insurance, retirement account, 1-4 weeks of paid vacation a year and maybe even stock options, which basically brings the real yearly income up by 10% to 25% on average.

And this is all working behind a keyboard, no lifting, no flipping burgers, no dealing with obnoxious people (well at least after you get on the server side), no working under the hot sun or cold winter. Most work in IT is more or less self directed so no boss breathing down your neck all day, many jobs can be done remotely, its not uncommon to have IT staff only work in the office 10-20 hours a week.

If you think you can get all that from playing poker, go for it, but remember someone was willing to help you get started, and you flat out ignored them.
I want entrepreneur freedom, my dad is an electrical engineer he tells me to go back to school for that so he can get me a job where he works.

Trust me I know I could do something else and poker is blah or meh at best. But poker is so much more then making money. You travel around the world get to play on tv if you do good. A IT job not going to give you that.

I'm real dedicated in what I do. I've had one job in my whole life. I spent 9 years there. I'm done with jobs, I been laying in the bed all day. While dudes are reading my post from there work desk.

I lived in the hamster wheel. That's all a job is, but with poker I make my own hours. See my kids anytime I want. Not when I just have a day off. That's the American Dream Man, I'm finally living it. Instead of waiting for a check every friday. I'm like a tiger in the jungle, even with all the distractions I still have to go out to the casino and make that money or try to make money and at the same time build character in my poker career.
03-07-2011 , 09:14 PM
My babymomma is an idiot I tell you. I would been able to move if this girl don't stop buying ****. Or spend worthless money. She is the only person that makes me ****in tilt sheeeeeeeessh
03-07-2011 , 09:34 PM
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Originally Posted by dirtynick
Hook me up with that IT job lol
Never said I would get him a job, only that I would help him get started in the field.
03-07-2011 , 09:56 PM


A man has the right to change his name to vatever he vants to change it to. And if a man vants to be called Muhammad Ali, godammit this is a free country, you should respect his vishes, and call the man Muhammad Ali!



imo.
03-08-2011 , 03:18 AM
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Originally Posted by iLikeCaliDonks
My babymomma is an idiot I tell you. I would been able to move if this girl don't stop buying ****. Or spend worthless money. She is the only person that makes me ****in tilt sheeeeeeeessh
poor judgement on her part, imo.
03-08-2011 , 04:20 AM
money is the easiest thing to make if you work hard.
03-08-2011 , 04:33 AM
i played horrible today. i mean at first was good, i made right play VS LAG station 3betting AK, just happened he wanted to call off 100 with Q9hh and won. then i got trapped correctly by every player whenever i had a hand and ended my loosing night c/r with TPGK, so happened guy had bottom 2.

oh well, im going back tomorrow and im gonna win.

dropped 350 at 2/2, havent lost that much at 2/2 100max BI in a loooooong time. im drunk now.
03-08-2011 , 04:45 AM
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Originally Posted by MK7749
i played horrible today. i mean at first was good, i made right play VS LAG station 3betting AK, just happened he wanted to call off 100 with Q9hh and won. then i got trapped correctly by every player whenever i had a hand and ended my loosing night c/r with TPGK, so happened guy had bottom 2.

oh well, im going back tomorrow and im gonna win.

dropped 350 at 2/2, havent lost that much at 2/2 100max BI in a loooooong time. im drunk now.
Yeah you will do good tommorrow. Just make sure your stack off range is a little bit higher you will be fine.
03-08-2011 , 05:27 AM
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Originally Posted by iLikeCaliDonks
Yeah you will do good tommorrow. Just make sure your stack off range is a little bit higher you will be fine.
thnx man
03-08-2011 , 05:51 AM
ye just make sure that when the money goes in u have the best hand and u will probably win i think
03-08-2011 , 05:51 AM
but im not sure so dont hold me to it
03-08-2011 , 09:18 AM
Losing 350 at a 200 bi game is not a big deal.
03-08-2011 , 10:52 AM
and it's all one big session. so it's just a kink in the graph

      
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