I expect 40-50% payment this week. That's like 2k. He had 10k in action in play yesterday. There is a big difference between CANT pay and NOT WANTING TO pay.

I am down for you handling it. I handled jcohens mess after most of you guys thought the situation was hopeless and there didn't seem to be too many complaints with how that went down also, so would be willing to help if need be as well.

Agree with prorata distribution, this round robin thing you guys are doing with Bluff would have never been ok'ed by me personally but I wasn't owed in that situation so stayed out of it.

Cool with either of you guys

A lot of you guys know this about me but I am an attorney and my office handles a lot of bankruptcy cases. There are TONS of deadbeats who can go out and borrow endless money at the personal loan type places and they are doing that with bad credit and like 10/hr jobs lol. So I agree, getting an upfront lump sum to pay is only not doable if he doesn't try. The fact he is up a lot in the recent past also makes this look even more unethical if he doesn't go out of his way to pay a big chunk this week.

Something like this plan I think we would all agree to

2-3k up front
$300-500/week until paid in full.

With zero dollars and minimal income I could do this. Borrow 3k from family/friends or some personal loan shop. Drive uber for a couple months to make the weekly payments. We aren't talking some insurmountable amount of money especially for someone who was betting 10s of thousands a week on huge favorites. I mean its $6k you make that in like 3-4 months working minimum wage.

This. I've been discussing sports for 20 years. This method of payment when a credit problem arises is not only preferred, it is standard.

I owe-
Homanga -123 (roll + swaps)
Zeta -380

I’m owed-

Kobe +61 (with roll)
Aces +8

--434

Ster +513 (don't swap)

Bump Updated swap away
I owe
Mrgoodbar -50

I'm owed
Mattew +84
Kobeodom +168
Crazyrunner +419
Sterfry +83 (don't swap)
Cabrera +100
Whoyouwit +100
Anger +454
Jonny man +100
Stevesax +100
Eddy +520

Pm if off

Owed
EddyB 703
Fubster 300
Anger 345
scamfry 225
Homanga 1294
Kobe 15
Zeta 52


Owe
Crazy -372

Swapped us out last page

Zeta was swapped out already

Owed
EddyB 888
Fubster 300
Anger 345
scamfry 225
Homanga 904



Owe
Crazy -100

owe
sports -91

owed
itz 50

it is pretty obvious that many chose Zeta to manage settlement cause Zeta is soft (no offense Zeta, but it is true). Zeta once said that he is fine with payments as long as someone is paying... I also heard similar thing from Bacon..
I understand both Zeta and bacon want to give a chance some one who owes to repay, but as a thread we should not be soft...
Now, everyone who can't settle knows worst case scenario if one week his loss is over what he can/ want to settle he would be able to put settlement plan and pay 200 a week. or less.

Agree. Zeta makes it seem like no big deal

i vote wichita/angerpush for working on this

Pre-Swap Numbers -

I am owed:

crazyrunner +490

I owe:

Fubster -119.50
kobe -12
johnnyman -44
jabawokky -405
gaffon -397
sterfry -119
ryhen -901
itz -100
zeta -100

should be close to correct.

Updated:

I owe:

Fubster -119.50
kobe -12
johnnyman -44
gaffon -397
sterfry -119
ryhen -886
itz -30
zeta -100

crazyrunner will pay you the 490 he owes me. He owes you 909. I owe you 30. Crazyrunner and I are square

i dont care if you call me soft or too nice. you know what tho, i get **** done

the first debt situation i handled was dunlap in march. guy owed luckybacon $1392 and had not paid him a cent in 3 months. the thread did nothing to help him out, except to talk trash about dunlap and criticize him in the thread. yeah that really helped! lol. i was chatting back and forth with dunlap over 3 weeks being all soft and nice. in the end he made 2 paypal payments to me and a transfer on america's card room to pay luckybacon. if i berated him do you think luckybacon would have gotten paid?

the last debt situation i handled was bluff in february. after superbowl sunday he owed $8500 to thread. 5 months later that figure will be down to $1700 (after $300 payment to luckbacon this friday). he was always in constant communication with me, even if he was a day late with a payment.

compare that to CCX. 5 years ago the guy collected funds just like i did except he just ran off with the money lol

homanga, please pay jaba 145. homanga/zeta square

jaba, please pay crazyrunner 525. jaba/zeta square

jpb -45.5
sport -397

crazy +2
edddy +100
kobe +100
whouwit +50

sterfry +559

Personally I am not going to criticize anyone for working for the good of the thread, so the fact you did that is an overall positive. I think all situations and people are different though and certain people are going to respond better to fear than a sense of friendship.

I am not going to get into how I got Jcohen to pay the thread but it sure as hell was not being nice to him. And that is a situation where the vast majority of people had given up on getting paid and everyone got paid 7-8k in 2 months.

It isn't ok to freeroll the thread. It is stealing and slowpaying the thread after doing it is also stealing. There is literally zero reason these people don't pay faster with the exception of the fact that people let them get away with it and it is essentially a zero interest loan. I have said this many times before but my general way of handling this is to give the person in question a few days to get a solid and acceptable plan on how to rectify the situation. If that doesn't happen then it is time for the nuclear option.

You post about being the reason why Dunlap paid bacon. I respectfully disagree. I nuked him in NVG posting that he was a deadbeat who didn't pay his debts for months and within a couple days I had unsolicited PMs from Chris and luckybacon was paid. Just being nice and reminding him he owed didn't work, contrary to what you say. I would be more than happy to post the PMs or PM them to whoever if need be (assuming I haven't deleted them by now).

In this situation we have a guy almost certainly lying about the circumstances surrounding not being able to pay. He also is a large net winner within the last month. Add that up you have a bad situation he needs to fix asap. It has already been posted what would be an acceptable way to handle the situation and there is zero reason why he can't do that. If he chooses not to then he shouldn't get any sympathy from us.

Zeta the problem with how you handled the bluff situation is you went against thread standard of proportional payments. Bluff was always going to pay back. Had nothing to do with you.

I threatened to sell my debt to Admo so I honestly think that's how I got paid on my last $ lol. Zeta was helpful to me though keeping in contact.

Don't care how this sterfry situation is handled. Let y'all handle that.