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12-03-2015 , 05:09 PM
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Originally Posted by EddyB66
A). That's why posting pre swap numbers early is important
B). Had this issue with Anger this week, I legit didn't even see he booked a bet of mine, so that was my bad
C) Id say the reason people only reach out when it's in their favor is because it means they actually have a record of it.

Have this and a total of +/- on how you did for the week. So if an error occurs you can tell if it is because of missed bets or missed swaps since your total should remain the same.

Also it doesn't help that you (LEDN) have so many balances with so many people. Just a quick look and it seems you could swap out a number of them.
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12-03-2015 , 05:17 PM
Posting preswap swap numbers is nice, but if you can follow swaps then you can always figure out what the other person had as the preswap number anyway, so if people are 100% honest, it shouldn't matter.
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12-03-2015 , 05:25 PM
If I post anger +300 and you had -450 and post updated numbers after me and match mine I would never know. This has happened to me several times so yea its not like its a fool proof system. I think sometimes it comes down to lack of attention or laziness as I have had situations where it was a small discrepancy and just went with the higher number as I did want to go back through all the numbers and just wanted the numbers to match and keep swapping. Of course all bets are tracked and sbr has line history so if you suspect it double or triple check your numbers
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12-03-2015 , 05:26 PM
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Originally Posted by ryhenicee
If you wait til thursday or Friday to post numbers u can usually make an extra 100 a week in people missing bets or incorrect juice......Joking (kinda)

Oh wait damn I post early on Tuesdays so probably getting screwed each week by those not being honest.

Loco and Seatseller always seem to correct my juice errors +/- but you will found out quickly who is trusted and honest itt.

Also if you have trouble tracking swaps and keep rolling large amounts your gonna get screwed. Have them settle up and if want to be able to bet more escrow that. You are setting yourself up for missing swaps when rolling large #'s
Shouldn't everybody itt be trusted? Why are you insinuating there are certain people that shouldn't be trusted?

Whats the policy on how soon before I can bet without an escrow or have an escrow but go slightly over? The reason I let a lot of my large balance roll was because I could bet more. However I would be hesitant to have 10,000 or so in escrow. I understand I'm still somewhat new here and that I bet a significant amount but what is the time I have to be in here roughly to bet more than my escrow or have an escrow?
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12-03-2015 , 05:37 PM
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Originally Posted by LiveEverDieNever
This is something that keeps coming up time and time again. I'll have a few discrepancies each week, undoubtedly it is the result of my carelessness when it comes to keeping records. However they are only brought to attention when they favor the person who is brining it to attention. In my 20-30 discrepancies that have been brought to my attention maybe 1 or 2 was in my favor. Clearly I need to keep better records and only have myself to blame but this is really discouraging from a thread that is run on trust.
Trust me dude. You're not alone in your suspicions. I have been here a little over a year and a half, and I can tell you with full certainty over 80% of the time, I've been corrected, it's been in that person's favor to do so. I have no idea how often I make a mistake it's in my favor, but yes, it certainly does make one wonder. Also, the line/juice postings. I obviously try to be as accurate as possible but it seems I'm only corrected when I put the line/juice inaccurately in my favor.

It is what it is. The onus is on each person to decide who they feel comfortable betting with and to keep as good of records as possible. If someone does something dishonest, call them out, but if you just don't feel comfortable booking someone then pm them and tell them their action is no good with you.

However, I can say that the majority of the time I make a mistake it seems to be in my favor, so there is probably something to be said about the psychology of giving yourself the benefit of the doubt, I don't know.

I will give you my week's five discrepancies for example (that is A LOT, rarely is it more than 1 to be honest):

1. I pmed a person because it was a bet off. I somehow missed a bet he booked, that I lost.

2. I pmed a person about a discrepancy. Somehow, I put a bet down for him that he didn't even make. I had me winning it lol. I am pretty sure I've never done that (not to the wrong person, but a bet that didn't even happen). I'm still absolutely baffled how I could've done that. The entire Virginia/Virginia Tech game I thought I had $500 on it and turned out I only had $200.

3. Someone recorded all 4 bets I won and missed the 2 bets he won. My number was higher and I pmed him saying I believe he missed the 2 he won.

4. I missed a late swap I did last week, so the net for me was the same, aka it would've been caught either way.

5. As Eddy mentioned, he didn't record a bet that he lost to me.

What Eddy said about things being easily trackable and not thinking anyone is angling (this isn't even angling, this is outright theft) is kind of naive (no offense). Because if I have already done my numbers and another person realizes I somehow missed a bet that I would've won, I'm not going to go back and recheck the entire thread lol, so if they never tell me, then congrats they stole $100-$300 from me.

End of Novel.
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12-03-2015 , 05:42 PM
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Originally Posted by LiveEverDieNever
Shouldn't everybody itt be trusted? Why are you insinuating there are certain people that shouldn't be trusted?

Whats the policy on how soon before I can bet without an escrow or have an escrow but go slightly over? The reason I let a lot of my large balance roll was because I could bet more. However I would be hesitant to have 10,000 or so in escrow. I understand I'm still somewhat new here and that I bet a significant amount but what is the time I have to be in here roughly to bet more than my escrow or have an escrow?
Some I trust more than others. Dont think any try to scam on purpose just take the easy way out

Usually escrows are held for 6 months of course every up to those betting with you.
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12-03-2015 , 05:53 PM
i mean u should always be on top of your **** , i have also never had anyone correct a balance in my favor maybe because ive always been right , who knows but id say e1 itt is good and most of the time its laziness or just an error.
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12-03-2015 , 05:56 PM
Pretty sure I've corrected numbers more against me than for me

Keep good track of your numbers you lazy ****ers
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12-03-2015 , 06:00 PM
LEDN I personally think you having a +7,000 rolled balance is excessive. To go with your escrow, that's $10,000 lol.

Maybe collect all of it and send $2,000 to someone else so that's an escrow of $5,000?

But letting those ppl who lose to you roll large balances isn't helping them either.
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12-03-2015 , 06:06 PM
yeah i mean i've probably corrected more discrepancies against me than in my favor, mostly because they're just easier for me to notice i guess. obviously for anyone who looks at my numbers i've got a whole slew of discrepancies against me that would be a major pain in the ass to work out and i'll probably just let them slide. i sort of doubt anyone is sitting around with a few hundred bucks of mine in their back pocket hoping i don't notice, but if they are, well fine good for them.
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12-03-2015 , 06:22 PM
I owe:
Gaffon -$288
Bluff -$238
Sports -$582
WeeeMiner -$200
Card -$3
Zimmer -$200

I'm owed:
Sterfry +$474
WhoYouWit +$120
Bron +$259
LEDN +$336
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12-03-2015 , 07:12 PM
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Originally Posted by CHRONICFEVER
i mean u should always be on top of your **** , i have also never had anyone correct a balance in my favor maybe because ive always been right , who knows but id say e1 itt is good and most of the time its laziness or just an error.
wat u owe me like 2k then
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12-03-2015 , 07:28 PM
sorry guys been crazy busy

LEDN -1138 (there was an issue with previous swap Welikesports owes you 300 more)
homanga +50
sports +50
weeminer +200
zimmer -681
Bacon -219

let me know if I missed something, I probably did
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12-03-2015 , 07:30 PM
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Originally Posted by LiveEverDieNever
nextlevel -130.5
driveseati -189
loco -774
we like sports -400
sports -325
seatstealer -336

cabrera 26
chicagocubs 200
who ya wit 422
wichita 506
weeeimer 496
eddy 819.5
homage 708 (Your number, sent pm)
bromase 506
bigpot 300
jcoehn 380
raffdog 220
phrozenvirus 800
crazyrunner 1438
Going to have Homanga (50), Sports (50) and Weeminer (200) send you my balances.

Homanaga now owes you 758
You now owe sports 275
Weeminer now owes you 696
Crazy now owes you 838
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12-03-2015 , 08:10 PM
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Originally Posted by AngerPush
LEDN I personally think you having a +7,000 rolled balance is excessive. To go with your escrow, that's $10,000 lol.

Maybe collect all of it and send $2,000 to someone else so that's an escrow of $5,000?

But letting those ppl who lose to you roll large balances isn't helping them either.
His actual net rolled balances currently are under +4k (unless I can't math which is possible as I just added them up in my head). I do think there is a point where the rolled balances get excessive but also he is posting 20-25+ game want lists at 400/ea which is roughly 10,000 in possible exposure and something he couldn't do without addl. escrow anyways obv.
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12-03-2015 , 08:27 PM
owe:
Bluffmynuts -7

owed:
bromanes +367 (rolling, i guess?)
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12-03-2015 , 09:06 PM
+100 kobe2odom8 (pm'd)
-380 ledn (pm'd)
-567 Sports87 (paid 315, rolling 252 per request)
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12-03-2015 , 09:59 PM
Cubs 442
Bromanes 627
Hven 14


Jonny -4
IloveNY -161
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12-03-2015 , 10:27 PM
Seatseller -120 (DoN pending, do not swap)
Nimbus -190
LEDN -442

Bigpotpoker +500 (sending me pp, do not swap)
Homanga +396.5
Ryhenicee +200 (discrpeancy do not swap, pming you)
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12-03-2015 , 10:29 PM
owe:
Bluffmynuts -7
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12-03-2015 , 10:31 PM
PRE SWAP

bron -4433
fubster -76
sports87 -1003
WLS -600

chgocubs +400
loco +1600
raffdog +312
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12-03-2015 , 10:37 PM
UPDATED

bron -4433
fubster -76
sports87 -403
WLS -600

chgocubs +400
loco +1000
raffdog +312
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12-03-2015 , 10:43 PM
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Originally Posted by WeLikeSportz
Updated 11/24-11/30:

Post-Oak +600.00
LiveEverDieNever +400.00
ryhenicee +108.00
Sports87 +100.00
EddyB66 +50.00
BluffMyNuts -(18.00)
kingof299s -(110.00)
bronbron006 -(400.00)

1. swap between welikesports, post-oak, sports87

PO owes WLS 600
PO owes sports 403
sports owes WLS 100

becomes

PO owes WLS 700
PO owes sports 303
sports and WLS are square


2. swap between welikesports, post-oak, bronbron

PO owes WLS 700
PO owes bron 4433
WLS owes bron 400

becomes

PO owes WLS 300
PO owes bron 4833
WLS and bron are square
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12-03-2015 , 10:44 PM
UPDATED

bron -4521
fubster -76
sports87 -303
WLS -300

chgocubs +400
loco +1000

Last edited by Post-Oak; 12-03-2015 at 11:12 PM.
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12-03-2015 , 11:39 PM
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Originally Posted by LiveEverDieNever
nextlevel -130.5
cabrera 26
chicagocubs 200
bromase 506
phrozenvirus 800
crazyrunner 1438
have ccubs pay you 442 more and me 442 less. im square with cubs. bromanes will pay u 442 less and me 442 more.

also, 2 suggestions:

1. PM TheNextLevel and see if you can settle. He hasn't posted here in quite some time and probably doesn't even realize you owe him
2. IIRC PhrozenVirus wanted to try to run up his escrow, so since you're up $800 you should try to settle that and/or give thread an update so people don't think he has an open escrow
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