$2-5 casino table. Villain has barely played a hand in the 90 min since I sat down. He limp-called once, then folded post. Other than that, he limp-folded a few times, checked his BB, and completed in the SB.

Villain raises to $30 UTG+1. Gets two callers. Flop: J93. Villain bets $50, gets one caller. Turn: 2. Villain bets $100, gets called. River: K. Villain shoves remaining $350, gets call. (Gotta be AA/KK, right) Villain sheepishly shows 75 and loses to KJ.

Boredom is real.

I think one of my biggest problems is simply forgetting how massively spazzy everyone can be, and I just don't factor in spazz enough. I project the fact that I can sit at a table for ~10 hours and not spazz once on to my opponents.

G10%spazzfactor,everytime?G

Absolutely. Turns those 50/50 decisions into calls.

Never folding here in a 3bet pot fwiw.

Yes.
This is why my donkey ass has a winrate.
Also, if you appear to be spewing, it often increases the spazz and spew around the table


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In the 'Poker will never die' category:

Couple limpers at a $1/$2 game. I overlimp 22 OTB.

BB raises to $8. Call, call, call, so I call.

Flop 972 with two diamonds.

Checks to me. I bet $30. Folds to one of the limpers who tanks for like 2 minutes and then jams. I call the $104 more and show my set.

Original raiser says 'I'd never call there. I only call with a made hand.'

This is why I go back to this room so often.

Dude, all you had was a boat draw. Why get so excited about a 6 outer?

You need to xpost that in the "dumbest things you've ever heard in a poker room" thread over in live poker.

live 1/2. 8 way limped pot.

$16 in pot going into flop

flop 345 rainbow.

sb leads out 15. hj calls, button min raises 30. sb flats, hj flats.

pot $106 turn.

turn 10. board 3 4 5 10 rainbow

sb leads out 25, hj folds. button min raises to 50 with $20 behind. sb open folds second nuts 26...button shows 67....

I am still baffled. Sb is no nit btw, and definitely a whale. its just weird she can find this fold...

They have a section of the forum dedicated just for you.

http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/54...rags-variance/



Since this is a strategy forum, nice game, 8 way limped pot, that's a good sign.

thanks. maybe the mod can transfer my thread over?

Chivalry hand, MGM Las Vegas 1-2;

V1; My brother's girl friend, taught to play poker by my brother three days earlier. She has some idea, but not really. He keeps feeding her hundreds and she keeps losing them, one stack at a time. She has about $125.

V2; My brother. About 1k.

She's UTG, he's to her immediate left. Limped pot, 4-way.

Suited Broadway flop. Checked to her, she shoves. He laughs, calls. All fold.

Blanks turn and river. He flips over his flopped low flush. She shows a flopped Royal. Needles him for calling.

Guy to my direct right has a WSOP card protected 60 years old dressed like a golfer. I should be stuck $900 right now but thanks to his logic I'm only down $100 lol

Raise JJ $12 UTG 5 callers $70 pot
T23hh flop

He snap bets $75
I call
Turn T he snap shoves $300 eff

I fold he shows T2s and says you got Texas dolly'd

5 limps I raise JThh to $24 OTB only he calls
Flop A77ssh
He checks
I bet $20 he snap shoves $450 eff shows 73s lol

I open HJ to $15 over his limp with 99 he calls
Flop Q44r he snap shoves $300 eff

I fold he shows AQo

LOL this guy is my fave, biggest potato ever

What's your question? Do some people play poorly and have fun at LLSNL? Yes.

Your mindset should not be to mock these players. They are in the game to have a good time; you should respect that. Your mindset should be to facilitate their enjoyment while exploiting their weaknesses to your own benefit.

I just thought it was funny and wanted to share.

^ No worries. This is just the wrong forum for it; it belongs in BBV. Also I would strongly consider not mocking or denigrating these types of players, even if it's only internally; just because he's a poor poker player it doesn't mean he's not extremely adept in other aspects of life. If people didn't play poker just for fun then we couldn't make money.

Fair enough, thanks for the perspective

I just need to vent real quick.

Last night, I'm playing live 1/2, and the game is pretty soft, I've just been kind of card dead, and haven't been getting paid off when I do make hands. Anyway, I'm getting towards the end of my session when I pick up black KK in the BB, ~$200 stack. 4 limpers, I make it $12, and they all call.

Flop comes AK7, 2 s, I lead out for $45. One caller. The caller has been playing very LAG. He also skipped the list and just sat down at an open seat, so I already think he's an *******. Turn comes an off-suit 3. Now I have just a little under a PSB in my stack, so I push, a-hole calls, and river comes an off-suit 2. I get ready to collect my chips, when V tables 45 for the missed flush draw, but made wheel.

Not the worst beat in history, and i guess that he was getting 2:1 on about a 2.5:1 draw, but still just a ****ty way to end a session.

I found your problem. $12 is my usual opening size in most 1/2 games. Add 1BB per limper and one for being OOP and I usually make this $22 pre. Unless your game is very different than mine, I still expect a call or two.

Then you get an Ace-high FD board and you lead 3/4 pot. Not awful, but I pot it there.

Still, I feel your pain. Pretty gross after turn.

Just had my ****ing soul crushed twice at the casino. Curious to hear thoughts on these hands. Ready to go cry into my pillow so typing these hands up in a quick and dirty style. LMK if you are curious about a relevant detail I left out.

$1/$2 game at casino. One decent player at the table. Rest are middle aged TAGfish. Overfolding, unaware of position, bet sizing gives away information. Button just sat down before this hand. 60ish country guy.

Hero has QQ in the Lojack. $160 stack.

UTG straddles for $4. Three callers.

I raise to $17.

Button hems and haws and makes the call out of his $130 stack. Naturally, all the other ****ing players who called the straddle call b/c, they're "priced in." $102 in the pot.

Flop is 37T rainbow.

Checked to Hero. I have $143 left. Bet $65. Button calls. Everyone folds except decent player, who makes a speech about the guy having a set and folds.

Turn is a 5.

Check to button. He shoves for $48. I call.

Button has set of threes.

Should I also have put him on a set? The only one I was worried about was TT. Thought he could have Jacks here. AT. KT is bottom of his range. I assume he would raise pre with KK or AA. Maybe 77 (No one would call 15% of your stack pre flop with 77 or 33, right? Wrong. Damnit I give these guys too much credit.)

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Later on...

Hero has KK in middle position. Stack is around $125. Open to $15.

Hijack calls. Big blind calls.

Flop is QJ2.

Checked to hero. Hero bets $30. Hijack calls. BB folds.

Turn is some blank. Hero bets $30 again. Hijack calls.

River is some other blank. Hero shoves final $50 (probably on tilt).

Hijack calls. Has QJ.


Should I have checked to him? Do I need to call any bet he makes? I feel like I do in case he has AQ or KQ or the chutzpah to bet a missed straight draw.

Together these two hands created a losing session. So steamed right now. **** **** ****.

Hand 1 jam turn. Often V's will check back Tx here but call a bet with it.

Also, don't play when tilted and try to avoid posting results in the initial post as it leads to biased feedback.

In both hands your stack is too short to even give these hands a second thought (especially the 1st hand with there being a straddle), it's just variance.

The only advice I have for how you played the hands is that I would have sized your open even bigger in hand 1. If you're opening to $15 first into the pot with KK, then when there's a straddle and 3 callers in front of you when you have QQ then you're open should be more than $17. At least $25 IMO, if not $30.

I often think of a 3x (+1x per limper) raise as standard. With this in mind, I think I would raise a little on the lower end of said standard to $25+ b/c of aforementioned TAGfishies. My goal would be to get heads up but if it folds around I'm happy with picking up the $19 (SB+BB+Straddle+3 limpers).

What's with all the bad beat threads lately?