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11-14-2010 , 03:00 AM
u play 1/2 venice?
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11-14-2010 , 03:10 AM
Brag: flopped a flush and got all the money in like np
Beat: he said "you're trying to steal all my money huh?" before calling and showing me a royal flush
Variance: the dealer didnt hear my request to leave the hand there so i could take a picture.. T_T
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11-14-2010 , 02:20 PM
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Originally Posted by venice10
Brag: Won my first +$1000 pot
Beat: Was ready to call a villain who had 300BB and I covered, but a shorty 3bet so I folded. Would have flopped quads to the first villain's top FH. Shorty had K3o.
Variance: Managed to avoid the plague of river 2 outers going on at my table tonight.
wat? I always assumed you played 2/5+ ... 5/10

anyway, congrats on the 1k pot
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11-14-2010 , 02:21 PM
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Originally Posted by zhenzhenZHEN
Brag: flopped a flush and got all the money in like np
Beat: he said "you're trying to steal all my money huh?" before calling and showing me a royal flush
Variance: the dealer didnt hear my request to leave the hand there so i could take a picture.. T_T
beat: I limp-called with 86cc... yeah you've posted that hand in like every thread relating to beats.
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11-14-2010 , 03:08 PM
lawl. i never even thought about the fact that you must have a low flush in that case
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11-14-2010 , 07:20 PM
Beat: Opened with jacks in EP and my friend calls OTB and we decide to check it down. He shows AKo and the flop comes AJ7 rainbow.
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11-14-2010 , 10:07 PM
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Originally Posted by 8o8
u play 1/2 venice?
BR limited until recently. Finally moved to 2/5. I'm a nit when I play and a BR nit.
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11-14-2010 , 10:26 PM
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Originally Posted by Jarretman
Beat: Opened with jacks in EP and my friend calls OTB and we decide to check it down. He shows AKo and the flop comes AJ7 rainbow.
lmao
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11-15-2010 , 12:31 AM
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Originally Posted by Jarretman
Beat: Opened with jacks in EP and my friend calls OTB and we decide to check it down. He shows AKo and the flop comes AJ7 rainbow.
Similar thing happened to me. I open utg with jj, a lot of callers and i get 3bet by the bb and we are both super deep. I call, he asks to check down. I wtf? No, because there is an ai etc... He is adamant we have a check down thing going. I end up relenting. Flop KJ4r and sad times were had vs AK..

Edit: phone posting ftl
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11-15-2010 , 12:50 AM
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Originally Posted by ashley12
Similar thing happened to me. I open utg with jj, a lot of callers and i get 3bet by the bb and we are both super deep. I call, he asks to check down. I wtf? No, because there is an ai etc... He is adamant we have a check down thing going. I end up relenting. Flop KJ4r and sad times were had vs AK..

Edit: phone posting ftl
Agreeing to check things down is an ethics violation in many casinos, admittedly too rarely enforced. I have no friends at the poker table and that includes my wife. As Tom McEvoy said after theoretically busting his Grandma, "Grandma, you need to learn to play better."
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11-15-2010 , 01:03 AM
Crazy hand in terms of what happened, but not from a poker perspective.

I raise MP with JTs hearts, one caller on the button. Flop comes 2 hearts, I c-bet, call. Turn comes AH.

I am seated in Seat #1. As dealer deals out the turn card, his sleeve drags one of my cards from under my card protector and straight into the middle of the muck. No one at the table notices this but me, and dealer doesn't know either.

I was like... dealer, can you call the floor? You dragged my card into the muck. He obviously was incredulous at first, but all the dealers and floorpeople know me well enough.

The floor ended up forcing a chop between the two of us. I'm actually not sure what the rules should have been, but I thought they would kill my hand and give villain the pot. To all the people who say I should use a heavier card protector or I should guard my cards with my hands at all times... whatever... it was a ridiculous fluke accident.

Anyone know if the actual enforced action is standard?
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11-15-2010 , 01:07 AM
@ venice

yes, its a violation here too, but again, not enforced hard enough...

Fwiw i read andre agassi's book and his 'me vs them' mentality, which imo is a great way to think about poker imo...
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11-15-2010 , 01:46 AM
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Originally Posted by impressed
Crazy hand in terms of what happened, but not from a poker perspective.

I raise MP with JTs hearts, one caller on the button. Flop comes 2 hearts, I c-bet, call. Turn comes AH.

I am seated in Seat #1. As dealer deals out the turn card, his sleeve drags one of my cards from under my card protector and straight into the middle of the muck. No one at the table notices this but me, and dealer doesn't know either.

I was like... dealer, can you call the floor? You dragged my card into the muck. He obviously was incredulous at first, but all the dealers and floorpeople know me well enough.

The floor ended up forcing a chop between the two of us. I'm actually not sure what the rules should have been, but I thought they would kill my hand and give villain the pot. To all the people who say I should use a heavier card protector or I should guard my cards with my hands at all times... whatever... it was a ridiculous fluke accident.

Anyone know if the actual enforced action is standard?
B&M will be able to answer this. i'm not sure
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11-15-2010 , 02:44 AM
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Originally Posted by impressed
...

Anyone know if the actual enforced action is standard?
from my experience @ B&M forums...

standard action usually involves yelling, throwing, anger, swearing, sweating, calling the floor, and random bodily fluids.
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11-15-2010 , 09:24 AM
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Originally Posted by impressed
Crazy hand in terms of what happened, but not from a poker perspective.

I raise MP with JTs hearts, one caller on the button. Flop comes 2 hearts, I c-bet, call. Turn comes AH.

I am seated in Seat #1. As dealer deals out the turn card, his sleeve drags one of my cards from under my card protector and straight into the middle of the muck. No one at the table notices this but me, and dealer doesn't know either.

I was like... dealer, can you call the floor? You dragged my card into the muck. He obviously was incredulous at first, but all the dealers and floorpeople know me well enough.

The floor ended up forcing a chop between the two of us. I'm actually not sure what the rules should have been, but I thought they would kill my hand and give villain the pot. To all the people who say I should use a heavier card protector or I should guard my cards with my hands at all times... whatever... it was a ridiculous fluke accident.

Anyone know if the actual enforced action is standard?
Quick answer is no. Chops are enforced when the floor doesn't want to do their job. Step one is to see if you can identify the card. If he accidentally dragged the card with his sleeve, it is should be easy to see. Failing that, the floor can be told privately what the card is (rank and suit) and search for it in the muck.

If you can't remember the suit, then you're SOL on this hand. However, I'd have a talk with the management. The muck should be on the side of the dealer's stub holding hand, well away from the players. His dealer(s) should correct their procedure so this can't happen.
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11-15-2010 , 09:43 AM
brag: won my biggest pot (3.1 or 3.2k i didnt count rofl)
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11-15-2010 , 04:00 PM
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Originally Posted by papagavin
brag: won my biggest pot (3.1 or 3.2k i didnt count rofl)
nice pot. what stakes?
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11-15-2010 , 05:19 PM
First hand at local casino:

With the exception of the big blind, hero has history with the fit-or-fold deeper regulars and has a tight aggressive image. Rest of the table are unknown.

UTG $80
UTG+1 $50
MP $175
MP+1 $150
Villain $60
CO $50
Hero $60
SB $40
BB $250

Hero is dealt A3

MP calls $1, MP+1 calls $1, Villain calls $1, Hero raises to $8, SB and BB fold, MP calls $8, MP+1 calls $8, Villain calls $8
Pot: $27


Rarely isolate with Ace rag, but decided to set a false image while exploiting the deep regulars.

Flop: KJ8
MP checks, MP+1 checks, Villain checks, Hero checks
Pot: $27


Turn: A
MP checks, MP+1 checks, Villain checks, Hero bets $16, MP and MP+1 fold, Villain calls
Pot: $59


Villain would likely bet an ace or medium strong hand so the call suggests a draw or slow played straight.

River: T

Villain's stares blankly at the board and rechecks his hole cards several times before reaching. Difficult to explain, but there is something particularly awkward about his demeanor. My interpretation is villain floated an unusual draw and proceeded to check his cards after missing, hoping to have misread the hand, and after deliberation decided to make a last ditch effort at the pot.

Villain bets $36 and is all-in, Hero?

Spoiler:
One of leaks is that I do not spend enough time studying tells while playing live. Villain did not appear to be acting, so I decided to follow through with the read.

Hero calls $36 and is all-in, villain shows J9 for a pair of Jacks, Hero Wins $131 with a pair of Aces
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11-15-2010 , 05:37 PM
I hate the preflop raise with a weak offsuit Ace, especially if half the table is going to come along; they's no such thing as an isolation raise if this is going to be the case. We're only sitting with 60 BB, so I have no idea how this is exploiting the "deepstacks". I just fold preflop.

I also check the flop as our hand sucks in this multi-way pot which has most likely hit one or two people.

I think I like the half pottish sized bet on the turn. It's a multi-way pot so I think everyone will be playing a lot more honestly, so with everyone checking to us I think there is a good chance we have the best hand here and should bet for value / protection.

Kinda sucky spot on the river since we're getting like 2.5:1 to make a call. Even so, I think I probably just fold as there are a bunch of Qx hands (including ones with a pair) that he could easily have. I mean, we're basically beating T9 here and some busted flush draw and that's about it; although, maybe that's enough.

The preflop spew really set up this mess though, imo.

GcluelessNLnoobG
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11-15-2010 , 05:56 PM
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Originally Posted by gobbledygeek
I hate the preflop raise with a weak offsuit Ace, especially if half the table is going to come along; they's no such thing as an isolation raise if this is going to be the case. We're only sitting with 60 BB, so I have no idea how this is exploiting the "deepstacks". I just fold preflop.
The preflop decision is speculative, but I was implying that this would be an opportunity to take advantage of the fit-or-fold regulars, would likely be playing more straightforward than usual with deeper stacks.

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Originally Posted by gobbledygeek
Kinda sucky spot on the river since we're getting like 2.5:1 to make a call. Even so, I think I probably just fold as there are a bunch of Qx hands (including ones with a pair) that he could easily have. I mean, we're basically beating T9 here and some busted flush draw and that's about it; although, maybe that's enough.
Had the same impression of my opponent's reaction although I question whether the tell was strong enough to overlook the mathematical aspect of the game.

Thanks for the feed back, GcluelessNLnoobG
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11-15-2010 , 07:44 PM
Sick brag ITT. Take this to BBV.

Last edited by venice10; 11-15-2010 at 09:12 PM. Reason: I agree, moving it.
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11-15-2010 , 11:55 PM
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Originally Posted by canoodles
Sick brag ITT. Take this to BBV.
Strongly believe that my thread was mistakenly moved to this section as it was intended to generate strategy discussion. Would not have included the spoiler if I realized that it would be perceived as a brag.
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11-16-2010 , 12:51 AM
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Originally Posted by Jen-Sung Tan
Strongly believe that my thread was mistakenly moved to this section as it was intended to generate strategy discussion. Would not have included the spoiler if I realized that it would be perceived as a brag.
lime green HH's belong in BBV lol
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11-16-2010 , 01:03 AM
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Originally Posted by 8o8
nice pot. what stakes?
Took a shot up at 5/10 (I normally play 5/5) and we were playing with a mandatory 20 straddle. From reconstructing the betting the pot was actually closer to 3.8k I think now, I ended up making ~4k off the game in about 3 hours so it was all good
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11-16-2010 , 02:51 AM
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Originally Posted by papagavin
Took a shot up at 5/10 (I normally play 5/5) and we were playing with a mandatory 20 straddle. From reconstructing the betting the pot was actually closer to 3.8k I think now, I ended up making ~4k off the game in about 3 hours so it was all good
obv we need HH of pot

grats
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