Villain – 30’s asian guy. Reg at the casino, maybe plays for a living. I’ve played with him once before shortly and other players and dealers know his name. Has been playing pretty standard TAG. Was at the table when hero came and hasn’t played a lot of hands.

Hero – 40’s female. Been at the table about an hour and got stacked on first hand for ($120) with AKs on Kxx (2 hearts) flop against A3h and turn was a heart. The other hand I got all in on was KK on a low rainbow flop and doubled up by a fd that missed.

Table is very loose aggressive with mostly Asians overbetting almost every flop (two other Asians, not villain).

1 /2 with 7 players late night at casino. Hero has about $140 and everyone else has hero covered.

Villain limps in EP, hero limps in MP w/ 10h6h ( I know should have folded pf but I didn’t), HJ limps
CO makes is $17, button calls, villain calls, hero calls, HJ folds

Flop ($68) QhJh9s
Villain bets $60, Hero ?

I know I should have folded pf but since I limped and was last to act after the raise and all the callers, I thought I'd call and see the flop. Would like to know if I should be shoving or folding after villains donk bet on flop.

As you said, fold first in pre (and it's not even like a marginal spot, calling this with any frequency is really bad and will cost you a TON of money. A TON!)

Fold to the raise preflop. Why are you putting in more money with a garbage hand that almost never flops anything good? How do you expect to win a pot with T6s after a huge pf raise and multiple calls? Do you call any 2 cards from the bb when there's a raise preflop?

At this point IMO you should just shove, although it's actually a sick spot. Donks are usually not super strong hands, but on this really wet board villain could easily be donking something like QJ or 99 because they don't want it to check through.

He's also not limping QQ or JJ if he's decent at all, and maybe not 99. I don't know if he pots KT. At this point you can't really fold so you might as well shove and cross your fingers you're not up against a bigger draw, which you could very well be. You'd actually much rather see 99 here than AhKh, but cross your fingers he has QJ or something I guess.

You also really, really, really really really need to evaluate your play if you even think about calling T6s from MP for any reason and then think about calling the $17 in a 1/2 game for any reason. The call of the raise is actually much worse than the pf limp, and even that was pretty bad.

This is exactly why you don't limp it. You flop nothing really strong, and your dream flops (short of TT6) are not even THAT great.

Edit:

Quick math. Even if he always calls you're essentially betting $120 here to win $188 ($120+68) which is 1.56-1. That means you have to be good 38% of the time. If he has 99 you have 39% equity and if he has QJ you're 50/50. You're 35% vs Ahxh and 26% against AhKh which is the worst hand you could be up against.

So even if he open shoved you'd have to call. You're better off shoving if there's any chance you fold out some draws that could beat you or possibly made hands like AQ where you could win if the shover had something like AKhh and you win with a six.

Need to add that the other two players in the hand are 20ish asian guys that have been playing very LAG and there's a good chance one or both will call an all-in w/ TPTK. They've both called all-in's of around $200ish with top pair or draws. And one seems to be on a major heater right now hitting most of his draws.

Should still be a fold preflop, fold to the raise, fold on the flop.
Just fold.

Shoving here is probably a coinflip. Meaning its 0EV. You probably have ~30% equity and you need ~30% equity. I don't see a need to play these 70bb flips for minimal edge when you can wait for 80-20 flips just round the corner.

Well, first thing, clearly you are not very good at poker in general (no offense), and you need to start by reading some basic strategy threads and maybe heading over to the beginner's forum. There is no reason you should be this shortstacked, and IF you are this shortstacked you should even moreso be playing tight because you have no implied odds.

Preflop: you have T6, what do you think you do? Limp AND call? Wowzers. If you "know" what you should do, then do it. This is one of the biggest fish leaks, is they "know" the right thing to do and just choose not to do it.

Flop: You need like 30% equity to call. You are 50% vs 2 pair, 40% vs a straight, 35% vs a set, and 30% vs a higher flush draw. What do you think you do?

This is absolutely awful advice. First, you dont have to wait for 80-20 flips, you can do those too. Second, you didnt even bother to throw it into poker stove before posting? Way to eyeball it

My bad. I somehow missed the OESFD. Yup get it in on the flop. And you need 40% equity to call.

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