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04-16-2024 , 03:14 AM
1/3 NLHE 9 handed.

Table is loose passive and playing fairly deep.

V - Station. Has the weirdest hands at showdown. Can show up on a runout like 7-7-2-A-K with AK that just check called OOP the whole way. Sometimes he opens pre but rarely. When he does its usually out of boredom, something like 77 or T9s. His calling range is very wide but it includes all the premiums up to AA. If he 3-bets me pre I will fold QQ, even KK is close. I don't remember much about how he plays postflop when this hand transpired. 600$. BB.

H - Covers and has no real image that I can think of. UTG+1.

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BTN straddles 6, SB calls, V calls BB, UTG makes it 12, H sees A K and makes it 80 (table has been playing very loose pre with many hands going all-in with marginal holdings and very gambly), folds to V who calls, UTG folds. HU IP.

Flop 170 (540 back) - 7 5 3

Check, check

Turn 170 (540 back) - 4

V bets 25, H raises to 195, V seems unhappy but calls

River 560 (345 back) - 2

V jams, Hero?
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04-16-2024 , 06:56 AM
You're losing it chopping I guess. You unblock spades but also hearts. What worse hands do you have here? You should have no sets or over pairs given pre and flop. You can have the nut flush. But I'd have played every street differently I think so hard for me to say. Feel it's a fold. He can have a 6 I suppose, although even that's weird, hearts or ace. Can you have a 6 here? 65s?

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04-16-2024 , 10:47 AM
Pre. seems a little too big.


Would probably bet 50 on flop in 3bet pot, and then mostly give up unless a big card hit.


Turn raise is complete BS ... your story is what that you 3bet pre. big with 77/66/55 and then somehow checked the flop for deception?
Or you checked AA/KK behind on the flop but now want to raise when you are drawing dead to the 4 liner?

Most believable story is that you have NFD in hearts on turn (with the gutter ball) but then he donk shoves into you on the river when it hits.
Wouldn't be shocked if you were drawing dead on the turn vs. a 6 and villain was unhappy as he didn't know the best way to get the rest of your money. Good chance he has like 9h8h or even QhJh that doesn't want to fold and now hit a flush.

I guess there's some chance he has like 33 and has decided he's calling it off on the river so why not just shove it instead, but I doubt it's enough of the time.
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04-16-2024 , 02:52 PM
Well. If they are gonna limp call 80 preflop lol.

I would just bet flop. Its a terrible flop for us, but id like to fold out his unpaired hands with lots of equity if possible. Probably go 2/3 on flop and sell that we have an overpair.

Turn raise is not believable. If i did check flop i would just call turn because fish actually overcall raises after donking even when they are weak, so you just raise them with value and get paid and dont raise as a bluff.

I guess call river because the guy is such a wild card.
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04-16-2024 , 10:50 PM
So turns out the guy is super straightforward.

Result:
Spoiler:
I call given the size of the pot beating sets and he has KThh
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04-16-2024 , 11:32 PM
spoiled reply:
Spoiler:
Not sure how straightforward anything he did is before the river.


GOAT level turn raise by hero though
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04-17-2024 , 01:55 AM
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Originally Posted by illiterat
Pre. seems a little too big.


Would probably bet 50 on flop in 3bet pot, and then mostly give up unless a big card hit.


Turn raise is complete BS ... your story is what that you 3bet pre. big with 77/66/55 and then somehow checked the flop for deception?
Or you checked AA/KK behind on the flop but now want to raise when you are drawing dead to the 4 liner?

Most believable story is that you have NFD in hearts on turn (with the gutter ball) but then he donk shoves into you on the river when it hits.
Wouldn't be shocked if you were drawing dead on the turn vs. a 6 and villain was unhappy as he didn't know the best way to get the rest of your money. Good chance he has like 9h8h or even QhJh that doesn't want to fold and now hit a flush.

I guess there's some chance he has like 33 and has decided he's calling it off on the river so why not just shove it instead, but I doubt it's enough of the time.
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Originally Posted by Stupidbanana
So turns out the guy is super straightforward.

Result:
Spoiler:
I call given the size of the pot beating sets and he has KThh
I don't think he can have any sets with this line tbh. But the whole hand is weird to say the least!

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04-17-2024 , 05:33 AM
I'd bet less on preflop and cbet on the flop. Would give up after that.

AP definitely not calling the jam
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04-17-2024 , 09:52 AM
Heads up and IP, I'd c-bet flop for 1/3 pot.

Turn is one of the worst cards we could see. Any 6, or A2 is a straight, and V could have a lot of 2P, or even a set with 44. Just giving up and checking back now, if the flop went check-bet-call.

AP, we can flat call the tiny donk bet and see a cheap river.

The flop check back followed by a turn 8x / over-bet raise line is ridonkulous with our hand, on this board. All we have is two overs and an ISSD. We block nothing. Go home, Banana, you're drunk.

River is a pretty easy fold to his jam, after we showed so much aggression on the turn. He's a passive rec-fish. His jam is super-nutted.

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04-17-2024 , 04:16 PM
What are you asking me here? Teach an ape how to send a rocket in space?
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04-17-2024 , 08:16 PM
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Originally Posted by ManastaR
What are you asking me here? Teach an ape how to send a rocket in space?
Bwahahahahah!!!

OMG, I'm dead.

Dead!

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04-18-2024 , 03:22 PM
As played, I would call the 1/7th pot turn bet.
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04-18-2024 , 08:30 PM
just so i understand. giga passive guy you are afraid of getting 3b when you have kk is turning a set into a bluff otr? at least pretend he can have spades / chops if you want to bluff catch
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