Hero ($400) - Been playing a long time and is getting tired. Was playing PLO earlier but the table broke so moved to a 1/2 table because high hands were starting. Not playing my A game but table is terrible so I should still be profitable.

Villain 1 UTG ($300) Asian guy and is probably mad as he is on his 3rd bullet. He doesn't seem very good but not the worst player at the table.

Villain 2 UTG+3 ($300) Standard OMC and probably isn't getting out of line.

Hero is MP ($400) Clearly tired LOL

Villain 3 MP+1 ($400) Total fish - calls everything pre and likes to chase gut shots flush draws straight draws - just plays total donkey. Everyone is taking turns gunning for this guy and not really trying to put any one else in a tough spot until this guy is gone since he plays every hand. He also likes to take stupid stabs at pots that make no sense - like a $15 bet into a $50 pot

Villain 4 HJ ($200) Doesn't seem very good since he called my BTN raise of $15 with K7 in the BB and didn't get a lot of value on a K64K4 board when I had AA. He probably won a total of $70 after I cbet flop and check/check turn and check / call river.

UTG makes it $15 - first time i've seen him do this BTW so I range him on AK or good cards but he could be tilted.

V 2 calls

Hero calls with JJ - was thinking of 3betting but was going to set mine instead because I figured UTG had QQ+

V3 calls of course

V4 calls.

$90

Flop is JT4

Bingo flop

Check / Check / Hero decides to check because V3 has been betting a ton and I was hoping he bets but he V3 checks / V4 checks

Turn is 7 - still $90

Check / Check / Hero now bets $70 and the whole table calls LOL - At this point i'm sure I have to dodge a diamond, 8, 9, maybe a Q, and hoping the board pairs lol. I'm sure no one has 98.

$440

River is a Q and I bet $50 as a blocking bet and it should still get looked up by 1 pair hands and V3 raises to $125 which is just awful and I am pretty sure he has ether 2 pair or a straight and I call and he rolls over a stupid K9 for a gut shot.

I think if I bet flop He would of called but I could of stuffed the turn and I don't think he could of called.

Pretty sure I butchered the hand but wouldn't mind feedback. I would normally never check this flop but because V3 was playing so stupid I figured I would try and get a check raise in the flop. Just unlucky he never bet. I wish I just bet $70 flop and jammed turn.

I don't think it's so awful.

These super sticky, super bad tables just have a lot of variance to them, naturally.

Should you ALWAYS 3-bet JJ? Nope.

Should you ALWAYS bet a multiway gin flop? Nope.

I'm not saying it's standard or awesome, but I don't think you played it terribly.

There are two questions that only you can answer: Was it smart to put V1 on QQ+, AK? Was it smart to gamble on V3 making a raise? Without being results oriented ... I mean, sometimes you spot tendencies and you want to use them to your advantage, right? If V3 is a flop-betting monkey, it's fine to try and take advantage of that. Or, for that matter, if V4 is an orphan-pot-stabbing monkey, take advantage of that too.

You're in a pretty sweet spot after the turn. You're probably ahead, and you have a 20% chance of improving to the Full House even if you're behind. If you do improve or if a brick falls, you can probably extract even more value.

Even with the read on V3, checking the flop is pretty terrible. FPS. The PFR has already checked, just pot the flop and the turn and print the moneyz.

your mindset probably butchers you much more hands than that.
you want to bet big otf and shove the turn to make villain fold his K9, he doesnt draw out and you win the hand. that´s really not what you should want though.

whatever, would normally bet flop since you usually get tons of callers on a JTx flop, but when you had that read V3 was betting, checking isn´t that bad.

turn is good.
your river bet is just bad, way too small. and obv call his lol raise.

K9 picks up a double gutter ott btw. You have to bet the flop. You just aren't very happy with a third of the deck.

I'd probably say never check that flop. Pretty wet connected and you said you have 2 villains who are sticky/tilty. I would try to get values from draws and 1 pair/combo draws.

Hopefully by betting, the Villian who you thought was going to bet will raise, getting more money in.

We got the nuts for now, I'm trying to get the most value now.

Why not make a decent value bet OTR?

I'm always betting this flop

What's going to call a big bet that I beat Besides maybe a q and 2 pair. We would of heard from 2 pair earlier though at this kind of table. The flush missed and the straights got there

Grunch.


Meh. I could go back and forth on the flop bet. I think a lot of people would say its obligatory, Idk, if he fires a ton and we have the best possible relative position than whatever.

The rest looks OKish. I think the river bet should've been bigger and not blocking. I don't want to discourage a Bluff necessarily. There's a few people involved in the hand otr that never raise w/o the joint imo so let's get some value.

OTF, it's multiway and the board is draw heavy. you have to be very, very sure V3 will fire to check this flop. So many hands can call a solid flop bet, setting up a potential river shove given eff stacks. I bet to build the pot here.

You know why they say never c-bet bluff a JTx flop multiway? Because it hits so many hands. Toss a flush draw on top and this is as standard a c-bet spot as it gets. I'd bet close to pot here with this many players. We're looking to get stacks in ASAP.