Seems standard to me. Flush and straight are unlikely, as loose passives are not check-raising draws on the flop. You need to be ahead 27% of the time here and I think that he has Jx here enough of the time to make the call profitable. You probably lose this hand more often than you win, but the price is too good both on the flop and the river to fold.

Agree with the above, and this is actually an interesting hand to play with ranges on the river. The 5 is actually really good because there's only 7 combos of sets instead of 9 now.

If his range is all sets (not even discounting JJ with the limp) and AJs, you still have 30%. I can get it as low as 25% if we give him some J5s combos.

I've had a few interesting hands of late. I'll start with this one:

I think this is pretty standard. Only real question is the turn.

I get KK OTB ... Eff. stacks: $319. I raise to $19 over a couple of limpers.

One of the blinds calls. UTG limper - a 70ish former Marine who is pretty loose - calls. MP limper calls. He's also pretty loose pre and calls a lot.

Flop QQ9. FML.

Pot is $71. UTG limper leads for $19. MP calls. I decide to peel one off. Blind calls. Pot is $147.

Turn 7. UTG limper leads for $19. MP flats again. Now, at this point, obviously, someone has a Q. Maybe both and it's a kicker battle so they aren't going crazy.

But I'm getting sick IO if I call here. I can easily toss this on the river if I miss. I have $281 left and will have $262 if I call.

Thoughts?

Think it'll be -EV long term but how often does this come up? Not very. UTG can have 99, no? Blind can still raise with 99/Q9 since you're not closing.

One argument for calling is your Kings also make the most likely draw into 2nd best (JT), but putting heaps in on a K river will look a lot like KQ so you might not get enough action.

Why does someone obv have a queen? They have tons of hands without a queen in their ranges. A9, 9xs, 88, tt, jj. Possibly even T9o, 98o

Because it is 4 way to the flop and then multiple callers on turn


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If you're going more than 3ways to the flop, you're doing something wrong preflop, imo.

I think I'd also peel the flop due to price and we'll be in position to evaluate the turn, but at the same time I also feel I'm just putting in dead money here.

Kinda gross on the turn since price is so lol cheap, but it definitely feels we are just being milked a little at a time. FWIW, we're about 22:1 to hit moneymaker on the river, and we're currently getting close to 10:1, so we need to make up about 13 bets before we make money, which is $247. If someone does have a Q, I think we definitely make that up, plus a little more if they both have one. Plus there is the slight chance we are good, although this gets into a little RIO territory (i.e. what are we doing to another donk of like $20 plus call?). I would sigh call the turn, and *might* sigh overcall another ******o underbet, although this seems fishy.

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I think it was the fact that I was the button, that I was active and the 'once one calls, everyone calls' syndrome.

As for the river, yeah, I was pretty sure I was going to fold even to a LOL $19 river bet. There's just no way I am good against multiple people here.

Is this the place for dumb questions?

AA UTG at 1/2...

I will limp/reraise on most tables. Is this standard?

I feel like a standard raise is going to get called and now I am playing opp. I know limp/reraise is pretty transparent but so is making a large raise utg.

I prefer to play AA "normally" and play other hands the same way to hide them.

What percentage of attempted limp/rr end up in a limped multiway pot?

If it is a passive table, I wouldnt do this, so I expect to be raised often.

Recently I have been getting into spots on monotone boards which I am having trouble with..

Example..

2/4
1 Limp semi-fish, I raise $20 from MP QT, CO calls, blinds call
4way ($80)

CO is a tourny donk who I seems to bet when checked to. He 3bet me earlier and I crai AXXss flop he folded. Also floated flop and vbet riv vs me on K84ss, 93 with 78 or something.

T64

Given my reads on CO, I c/c his $65 bet and all else fold. Now should we still be b/f here? plan on blank turns?

Turn is a blank and we check again. Are we going to get owned here since we never have a flush and he is betting always?.

They're twice as likely to have T9+/JT as Qx/99, and cumulatively at least one of them has Qx/99 only about 30% of the time or so.

Basically, multiway pots don't contain monsters nearly as often as people think. Yeah, mw pots converge to top of range, sure, but the majority of anyone's range on any flop is random air.

If you're afraid of playing AA multiway you have MUBs. I basically love life when 3 people peel off and I have AA because statistically the most likely occurrence is one of them randomly flops top pair and donates his entire stack.

I hate multiway pots way more with, say, AJ or AK or whatever.

If he's a tourney spewtard who's going b/b/b his entire range I'd gladly station off bricks and x/f diamonds. You could also click back flop hoping he spazz ships it with a single diamond or BS overs.

Hello, I'd like thoughts. Happened a few weeks ago so details aren't as sharp as I'd like but I feel I made mistakes.

I've been there about an hour and V hasnt played any hands except for Bb sb. He's in his 50 about, wouldnt describe as omc but conservative n competent and is sitting on over 200bb since I got there. I put a lot of weight on these reads, first mistake?

He's seen me go from 100bb to 300 in that hour, with varying lines some aggressive some passive. My very first hand I limp/called, raised, raised, lead all in with a set. I called a flop bet, called turn all In with two pairs on a dry board, V comments I didn't snap call and says about Hollywooding. I think he really saw it as weak tight. I raised limpers on the button, went heads up to a all heart flop, I bet when checked to, turn check check, I bet river when checked to and get called and lose to A high, I show 10/8 off for 10 high.

1/3 I cover table, I'm in late position V in bb. maniac opens to 10 I over call two callers, V comments he has to call with any two since maniac opened. I have 45 suited.

Four way to a flop of A55, V checks, maniac bets 10, two folds I raise to 50, V (bb) re raises 100 on top, I tank 4bet 160 on top, V shoves 260 on top. I fold

what were you thinking about during your tank before the 4bet?

That's the point you should be deciding if villain has a better 5 or AA enough to warrant folding. If he does, then fold now - don't 4bet and then fold. If he doesn't, then 4bet/call.

(and don't say you decided to 4bet to see where you were at, you've already been check/3bet).

He's not bluffing with maniac behind him, and he's not doing this with AK for value. Fold to the 3bet.

The situation isn't common to me, I thought over pretty much the stuff I posted. My read on him, his read on me, his check raise and comments, and pot size. And obviously what I was going to do.

I didn't have a range for him calling in bb against a maniac, I just excluded the top of his range that would raise from bb.

His check raise was a great play if I didn't have a 5, I raised a lose players 10$ continuation bet in a 40$ pot in last position. So I leveled myself I guess into thinking he'd do this with air/Ax.

I thought I'd get called by his big aces, fold his small ones and set up a easy turn shove. I made the assumption before I raised I'd only be raised by better. Then when he did raise I wanted to change my mind and call but I didn't want to level myself into a call.

horrible fold

$150 eff.

Hero ($150) has just gone on a streak of runbad (and is tilting obviously since I call) at the table and calls a bet of $11 with A4dd and sees a flop 5 handed.

Flop ($50) is
567 two diamonds.

Checked to hero, bets $25
Player to my immediate left raises to $50

Folds to me.

Min raise coming from competent female player in late 30's early 40's. She is one of the few players above max buy in ($300) atm.

Her raise makes me believe she has an over pair, 2 pair, and sets. I think she doesn't want to just call and give everyone behind her to come along but doesn't want to chase everyone out.

Unlikely to have any FD except KQdd.
Also don't think she has a straight already.

What should I be doing here?

With $150? Stick it in.
There is almost no possible range that she can have that we are not making a +ev move getting it in here.

^Yeah I mean ffs we have 55% vs sets, and that's the worst shape we're in sans exactly 98.

Ok that's what I thought in the moment and I did jam.

Villain took about 15-20 seconds and called with 55.

Turn and river bricked and I just wanted to make sure others felt a jam was appropriate there.

Thanks guys.

Two quick preflop spots. 2/2 NL

6-handed, Hero (BTN, $250) with 77. V (Covers) is a wannabe LAG, opening way too many hands. UTG+1 ($70) seems tight/neutral - passive. Straddler ($180) is a TAG, and the blinds are playing fairly short (below $100)

V raises to $15, UTG+1 calls, Hero squeezes to $70.

5-handed, Hero (SB, $190) with KQo. V (covers) is the straddler from the previous hand example.

V raises from CO to $15 (has been his standard bet whether or not pot is straddled), hero 3-bets to $50.