Everyone folded, so no show down. I'm quoting this because UTG's statement may or may not be relevant to these next two hands. Both hands are ~$450 effective.

1. First hand we raised pre since this hand. He straddles BTN $7, loose passive fish calls SB, we look down at 88 in LJ and raise to $35, he 3 bets to $120. With no other knowledge and going off population I fold.

2. Literally the next hand there's a $7 BTN straddle, we $30 +2 with 99, and he 3 bets from CO to $115. Hero? Do we just fold again? Do we think he's doing this in response to us 3 betting him three times prior and he's tilted about it? If we aren't continuing (probably just 4 betting all in with our continuing range, right?), then what is our continuing range?

3. A few hands later we saw him 3 bet an UTG opener who had severely berated him the previous hand, with AJs from SB (which beat berating *******'s AA, yay, fish!) Can we draw any conclusions from this?

Is this like standard or how could I play this better?

V1 is a typical OMC in the room.. he covers me. He does crossword puzzles and reads the paper quite a bit. He is very tight overall. He covers me

H: young guy. Got here not too long ago I have 300

One limp UTG V1 raises to 10 in the cutoff button calls I reraise AsQs from the SB original limper calls and V1 calls

(145) flop Qc5h6d

I bet 35 limper
Folds and V1 calls

(215) turn 3d I check he bets 60 we call

(335) River Jd check check.. thoughts?

I'm not 3 betting OMC unless I have AA or KK. This is a rare spot where I'm flatting from SB.

I'm not sure why we bet 1/4 pot otf; having done that though, I would bet the turn.

AP, river is standard.

I turn the nut flush and nut straight in a 3bet pot. Typically don't get fancy just bet right?

Villain seems TAG with decent hand reading. Hasn't gotten out of line and seems to call loosely against two spewers at the table but not light against other two TAGs. We haven't played a hand HU yet or into big streets multiway.

1/3 Pre-flop. Villain has $350, I cover. $1000 jackpot if I hit a royal flush.
Folds to villain in HJ who raises $15 (typical).
I 3-bet KcQc in CO villain calls

Flop ($90)
TcJd5c
Villain check
Hero bet $45
Villain calls

Turn Ac ($180)
Villain check
Hero bets $120?

Best turn card but also biggest action killer possible. If I continue to bet what can I get called by? Slow played JJ? Passive AA that called flop on case I had TT or JJ? AJ?

Now for a special case: it's $1000 jackpot if I hit the royal flush, does that make this a check now? I'm drawing at 1 card for the $1000 so EV of that is $20, but reverse EV of the board pairing giving AA, JJ, or AJ a full house or quads might counterbalance that...

I was going to say that I didn't understand the turn check, but I fired up Flopzilla to double-check, and it turns out that if we give the villain a typical OMC starting range of {88+, ATs+, KTs+, JTs, AQo+} and then drop out the worst suited Broadways and also half the AA, KK, and AKs (because OMCs sometimes think they are being "sneaky" by flatting these), this leaves a range of {88-QQ, ATs-AQs, KQs, QJs, JTs, AQo+, [50.0]KK+, AKs[/50.0]}. When we filter for hands that likely continue to the small c-bet, and then filter again for the hands that would likely call another bet on the turn, hero has only 40-45% equity.

So, yeah, check-calling the turn is a good thing to do. So is checking when the backdoor flush gets in.

NH.

If the villain is a thinking player, they would know that the Ac blocks a large fraction of your possible flush holdings, so it is actually a good deal less scary than, say, the 2c.

Keep betting. You are going to get called by hands like sets and two-pair hands. You aren't going to get calls from the hands that can't call, but you are going to get calls from the ones that can, and you don't want to give those hands a free draw at boat or quads outs.

ETA: Because you hold the nuts (both flush and straight), you block the villain's holdings that block the nuts. That is to say, there are fewer KX or QX hands in their range and absolutely no KcX hands in their range that they might use to bluff with. Therefore, if you check back, the villain will be underbluffing the river even more than 1-3 droolers generally underbluff, and so the only way to win more here is to bet to get money from their value hands.

Bump

Ohh yeah. KcQc is pretty much my only flush combo available and random KQo is my only straight (obv) but I'm not 3-betting an EP open from a tight player with KQo often.

This raises the question: damn, what does he peel then fold turn with? That's a narrow range too.

I don't really have an issue with any of them, I'd consider ripping the 99 or alternatively consider open limping the 99 if I'm expecting this V to 3-bet frequently, since you'd get to try to flop a set on them that way as a limp/call instead of a raise/fold.

I don't think the third hand really tells you a ton, you already knew this person probably wasn't just 3-betting AA/KK/AKs when this is the third 3-bet they've made in an orbit.

These dynamics occasionally will develop if you regularly iso/3-bet people, and I'd just generally say that the middle pocket pairs aren't great to 4-bet with, they're too prone to being crushed/flipping, as opposed to crushing. Consider finding ways to get to the flop with your 55-TT instead of getting into a leveling war with them; meanwhile, I think ripping it in with JJ+ and AQ is probably a decent start as the dynamic is developing.

You could also work with a solver for how to construct your preflop range here -- I'm not sure you need to have a 4! bluff range this shallow, but a solver could almost certainly help you work on this situation. I don't usually play in places where a button straddle is allowed, but keep in mind you're playing ~60bbs deep as a result of it -- their 3-bet just naturally has more leverage due to the stack sizes. I would've made my choice with the 99 before raising it, and like I said, limp is an option, it's not one I use frequently, but it's been a while since a villain singled me out for attacking.

I think betting 60 into 210 is almost always weak for OMC, and when you call he's through with it. If your river check is to induce another bet, I doubt it'll work. If you feel you're ahead, you can bet another 60 on the river and it may confuse OMC enough for him to call.

If you're Asian, you might bet a little more on the river and get a call because of the runner-runner flush--OMC's are often confused by Asians betting runner-runners.

jmo,

OMC

Haha so I lost this hand to OMC KK

FYP

2/5. V1 is unknown 35 y/o Asian rec. V2 is older middle eastern rec, image is somewhat tighter. Hero has solid tight image. Vs limp to hero in CO who isos KsQc $30, BTN calls, four more callers including Vs. $750 eff.

Flop ($150): K93r. V1 donks $75, hero calls, folds to V2 who x/calls.

Turn ($425): 8s bringing a bdfd. V2 now takes the lead and donks $150. V1 folds. Hero calls for this price somewhat unhappily planning on folding to further aggression. Should I just fold turn if I plan on folding river?

River ($725): 2d. V thinks a while and bets $225. Hero?

Thanks,
DT

Calling down all day; I can't remember the last time a donk lead wasn't top pair or a draw. Why would we ever fold any street, especially facing these sizes?

Why would you 3 bet pre here?

Because the dead money from the limper and the flat-callers incentivizes us to squeeze.

Yeah, but what the fact that the standard OMC opening range is AA, KK?

1/2 Montreal casino

First orbit of hero.

V1 : MAWG (300$) who looks somewhat competent.
V2 : Greek OMC (80$) who likes to see flops.
Hero: Has yet to play a hand. (250$)

2 limps, V1 makes it makes it 17 from MP2, V2 calls from SB, hero looks down at JJ in the BB.

What's our plan?

Is flop potsize correct? I think it should be $180. Regardless, I think flop is good.

AP on river I call. You're getting ~4:1 that V has KJ/KT/JT/Axss, all of which seem reasonably plausible here. Even if they have 9 (10? KK possible or no?) combos of sets, you're priced in even if they only have exactly KJhh, QJs, QTs, or JTs for hands you're beating on the end.

I think I might ship this particular turn card against described villain. I think they'll have as many JT/spades combos as sets, and blasting it in probably gets you folds against the draws. Might even get the best of all worlds and a call from KJ/fold from AK (depending on what kind of rec they are, I feel like the ones who are prone to limp calling KJ might call it off here; the ones who are limp calling AK might fold). Maybe that's too optimistic.

Make it $100 to go; and jam the flop if (a) we get it heads-up or (b) we flop a set or the flop comes T or lower.

Alternatively, just get it in now, because any reasonably sized three-bet will make the post-flop SPR less than 1.

We're 125 bb deep, what worse calls us when we shove? We turning JJ into a semi bluff there for the dead money?

2/5, deep game with $10 UTG straddle on. $1.4k eff. Hero overlimps A2hh OTB behind a couple limpers including pro V in CO. Straddler (weak rec) checks option.

Flop ($50): Kh-7h-8c. Rec donks $40, folds to pro who raises to $105. Hero? We have at least 25% against a reasonable range of 2p+sets, but we're not closing the action and already getting a bad price to see one card, plus we'll miss most of the time ott, our equity will drop a lot, and we are probably not going to see a cheap river. Is this a rare spot to fold the nfd?

Thanks,
DT

As described (rec is weak, not aggro), I can't imagine folding here. You're super deep, if you overflush somebody you could win $1300 for your $100 call. And keep in mind, if pro has like KTs here, they'll be as scared of your call as you are of their raise. If that's the case, you'll get some free rivers, cause rec will check to pro, and pro will check scared of your "set". You could even consider semibluffing at that point as well.

Yes, but there are *three* limpers acting after us. The configuration sucks; we have worst relative position between the field and the flop raiser.

I would say that this is a place to fold the nut flush draw; but I wouldn't call that "rare."

1/2, 9 handed, $250 effective with UTG, $150 effective with LJ. Hero probably doesn't have too much of an image to UTG, definitely TAG to LJ. UTG and LJ are both fish; UTG is more of an aggro fish, LJ is more of a passive fish.

OTTH

UTG limps, unknown+1 limps, LJ limps, tight passive limps HJ, hero limps OTB with A 6, and BB checks.

Flop ($13): J 8 4. X to UTG who bets $12, LJ calls, hero calls.

Turn ($49): 8. X to hero who bets $40 and both call.

River ($169): J. UTG leads all in.

Obviously the river is the easiest fold in the world, but what do you think of flop and turn?