I think you should bet more. You flopped a set and the time to get paid is on the flop when people still have draws to chase. I have no idea how much to bet without being there, but probably bet the pot, or more if it'll get action.

1/3 very loose game effective stack is 400

UTG limp I limp black 3’s in MP cutoff limps button limps SB RAISES TO 20 (raising a ton) UTG calls, I call, cutoff calls

(87) Flop 3h 8h Js

Check, I bet 30 cutoff calls all else fold

(157) Turn 7h

Check check

River 3d looking for best play here... should we check bet half pot? Jam?

I bet 125 and got called

Flop bet should be bigger imo. It's a very loose game with a 4-way wet flop.

I like a small turn bet against guys that never bluff raise and always have it. I'd probably check/call a lot against less rote villains though.

River seems about right.

Yeah I think the flop sizing is pretty marginal at best.

I can get behind a small turn bet/blockerish bet to get called by a random heart that calls flop. I do think it sucks a lot if we get raised so I leaned towards pot controlling cuz the turn definitely helps his range out a fair amount of the time.

I thought about jamming river but after he checked back the turn it’s hard to put him on a flush/ he seems pretty capped here to like Jx maybe 9x10x soemtimes

When is open LRR with AA and KK from EP a profitable play and how should I determine sizing when I get to reraise.

More profitable when people are likely to raise and make you live, the more aggressive the table the better. Likewise when said players are either droolers who haven't seen this move before or don't care and want to make you live. You might note that I was mucking decent hands against the old LRR after about 50 hours live experience, so a table full of regs will know what's happening immediately.

I suspect that this works better when people are not playing deep because IME getting 100bb stacks committed is relatively easy but much harder to get ~250bb across the line. Against that people may be more likely to call a LRR when deep because of pot odds.

What you raise is going to depend on stack sizes and opponents. If not deep and plausible to do so, I'd like to get about a third of my stack across the line to create trivial flop shoves.

Highly doubt that a limp/reraise attempt with AA/KK in EP (not to mention any other position) would ever *not* be profitable (the real question being whether any alternative would be *more* profitable). Likely best in games that feature lots of raising preflop with lottsa callers (where even if we do take down pots preflop they can still be quite profitable, and of course we're lol freerolling if we get called), and probably not incredibly deepstacked (where having a face up hand OOP with huge percentages of stacks still left to play ain't ideal).

Regarding sizing, I typically like to offer poor 8:1 IO to ~setminer type hands, so I would typically attempt that sizing. However, if stacks are small enough where a 3x type raise gets in lots of stacks then that's fine too, as is aiming for 1/3rd of stacks (if that's not too huge) to create a PSB shove for the flop (and if you're doing this with AK then you may have to do this with AA/KK if you're concerned about balance).

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Is this fine in this specific scenario? 1/2, $550 effective with both villains, 9 handed.

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UTG +2 is a LAG fish, station who hero has about 50 hours with. Villain opens super wide from all positions and hero has never seen villain fold to a 3 bet pre flop ever. He is also extremely sticky post flop. UTG +2 opens $20, HJ who is paying very aggressively when folded or limped to him, but pretty stationary to raises calls, and hero looks down at 9 8 OTB and calls.

I would've folded from any other position unless in HJ-CO with nit OTB or nits in CO and BTN.

Is this a squeeze, or too loose? 1/2, 9 handed, $200 effective with all. HJ is weird. He has a pretty low VPIP and almost always opens/raises over limpers, yet he shows down bad hands semi frequently when he raises, notably 65o, 97o, and 84s (all from EP/MP.)

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HJ opens $12, TAG who usually plays higher stakes calls CO, and lady I have no experience with besides first five hands of this table who has called raise/limped all five hands calls OTB, and we look down at K♠️ 9♠️ SB.

Would prefer a small-medium pocket pair for this, suited connectors want to see more cards cheaply and these chuckle heads aren't going to let you see them for free.

My preferred method for handling crazy lags who open too big and don't fold to three bets is waiting until I have it then 3betting big + shoving all flops. Boring, but you'll make lots of $$$$ off them.

I was playing in a wild short handed (4-6 handed) deep 1/2 game (shortest stack was $500) tonight and have a few questions:

1. There were varying degrees, but every player was a station that got sticky post flop, it was pretty normal to see middle pair calling down. I couldn't find the right amount to iso - $30 opens were going at least 3 ways almost every time. Is this type of game profitable? I was pretty card dead and felt like I was blinding out.

2. Considering the table dynamics I folded ATo when folded to me OTB 5 handed when the biggest station and stickiest player straddled $11 UTG - is this too tight? What would your BTN opening range look like in this spot?

1. Super profitable obviously, yes you will need decent cards, also kind of obviously. I don’t consider getting called multiway on loose tables a bug, it’s a feature.

2. Even I raise here and I’m a huge nit. Folding is atrocious, worse than flatting. His range is 100%, we have a decent hand and position, and he’s a huge mark. What are you waiting for, Kings?

Yeah it felt super nitty, I just didn't want to make a big pot pre, then c bet and get called by botton pair or a gut shot that hits a pair after I shut down. I guess it was pretty MUBS-y of me, but knowing there was no fold equity on the flop and almost every pot was 3-4 ways, it made it very difficult to play hands like top pair. They were also fiercely attacking weakness, so it felt like I would have to suck it up and make A high, low pair call downs, making it an extremely high variance game.

But if you have an equity advantage preflop, and you're going to get checked to on the flop, you can just check behind to continue realizing your original equity advantage.

That is true, but we're also going to get lead in to more times than not in the turn which comes almost always with a river barrel, which is why I'm saying I'll have to make a lot of hero calls.

This is why auto cbetting is bad. The point of cbetting 80-100% is against fit or fold players who don’t defend enough. Against this guy we can just check back flop and take equity to the turn. We are going to have to adjust by bluffing and stabbing less and playing for showdown value or to make a good pair.

Don’t cbet if you miss, EZ game.

Depending on stacks, people in the pot etc. I might check when if I hit an A. TP4th kicker is a nice bluff catcher rather than a monster hand.

Lots of straddling and players calling straddles in my games recently. Effective stacks often around 100 to 150bbs.

Suppose UTG straddles to 2bbs (sometimes they straddle to 5bbs). Early position call. I should size up my iso right? So maybe 10bbs (4x2bb + 2bbx1 limpers)?

While doing this (or making it 8bbs first in after straddle) I noticed some players still cold calling me with a wide range. If there's players to my left with wide inelastic cold call ranges can I get away with tightening up a but also making my EP and MP opens really big even without a straddle? Some players at low stakes seem to cold call 25%+.

I've heard the argument that when we size up too much, we invite bad players to fold correctly more often, and we should just raise our normal amounts pre. I've also heard the argument that we should size up to whatever amount will get us HU regardless of the scenario.

If there's literally no way to get it HU, I lean towards the first argument. If we can get HU at a somewhat reasonable price, I lean towards the second argument.

When should I cold call instead of 3-bet?

When you’re not getting better to fold or worse to call and when you’re getting good odds

Line check, please. 1/2, 9 handed, $250 effective.

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CO who I would classify as both right in between loose and tight, and passive and aggressive open limps, we raise K♥️ Q♦️ $12 OTB, loose end of tight passive calls SB, as does CO.

Flop ($38): K♣️ Q♣️ 9♣️. X-x-we $20 (sizing? Really wasn't sure on this, and this is main question), SB raises to $50 and only we call.

Turn ($138): 7♣️. X-x.

River ($138): 2♣️. X-x.

For the life of me, flops containing 3 of the same suit when I'm PFR are my weakness

This flop isnt as bad as it looks for us. Villain basically never have any of the sets with his limp-call line (maybe some combos of 99 but still), so we basically only lose to J-10 or flopped flushes. Your line looks fine, obviously another club is the worst turncards for us when we doesent hold a club ourself.

I dont like being raised on this board because it is rarely a light raise on those kind of boards, at least in the games i play. But with your half pot smallish sizing this could easily be a "see where i am at with top pair" kind of feeler raise, so i am fine with a call here and see what develops on further streets.

What do you think of flop sizing?

I think around half pot with most of our range is good as a default in this spot. I would tweak it some depending on our opponent, for example going exploitatively bigger against a big fish or a callingstation.

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