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04-11-2019 , 10:01 PM
I'm definitely check raising and not leading.

also, am not even thinking about squeezing
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04-11-2019 , 10:22 PM
Is this ever a call?

2/5
Both about 1500 deep. Villian is tag, not afraid to make moves whem he senses weakness.
I'm on button, cutoff raises to 25 and I 3bet to 75 with qq oj the button

Flop Ac10h6h. ($160)
He checks, I check back (I should probably bet this most of the time here I imagine?)
Turn is 2x. He bets 100, I call quickly
($360)

River is a 7s. He thinks for a minute then fires 300.
Seems a bit large for a value bet. I'm stricly beating 10/x hands or pocket 8s,9s, js that took a stab at the pot then turned into a bluff but seems like it could make up a large % of his range.
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04-12-2019 , 07:39 AM
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Originally Posted by ES2
Seems like you can only 4 bet aces against the worst players. I correctly folded KK to a 4b recently. So I'm like, maybe it's time to start trying some 4b bluffs again. So, gonna experiment with that.

1/2. I am the effective stack with $180.

V1 UTG 30s WM looks like he might be leaving. He goes out of his way to gather $1 chips and makes it 8. So, obviously, a classic candidate to be bullied.

V3 UTG + 1 Inexperienced WM, thinks for a while and calls. I'm a bit worried he was thinking of raising. Perhaps the greatest pitfall of squeezing in 1/2-2/3 is all the people who just call with monsters.

V3 MP. Mid 30s AM. Well dressed, confident, definitely played a lot of poker, very unlikely to be scared money. He looks interested the whole time and I think, "this guy is going to 3 bet for sure" and he does, making it $30.

Hero OTB with 10h8h. I'm pretty happy with the whole situation here. You might argue that I'd be better off with a more blocking hand. But I intend to call off to shoves sometimes and I like my hand for those purposes compared to a suited A or KQ against AK or AQ or even if I completely screw up and run into AA or KK. I'm not sure that is correct thinking.

I love my stack size. I have enough that he won't just say screw it and move in with like TT. But I'm kind of short so getting stacked isn't that bad. It also just fits well, as far as my raise size and what I'll have behind.

I make it $80, which any slightly thinking player will see as committing in an attempt to get all in. He should assume I'm never folding at any point going forward. I should get reads in this spot most of the time and can then decide if I want to call shoves.

He agonizes a bit and folds. Another player says he wanted to call with 8c7c and V says, "I would rather have that than what I had," which seems like an honest comment suggesting he did have a strong hand that matched up badly, like AQ. So, either he just happened to have one of his better hands, or I overestimated how much he would 3!

Anyway, 1-0 in 4b bluffs.
so someone 4 bet you and you folded kk to that 4 bet?
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04-14-2019 , 06:03 AM
1/3 9 handed. 400 eff. Btn straddle $6. blinds call. Hero raises to 40 UTG with AJs. BB calls.

Flop(92) JJ5
BB check. Hero bets 25. BB calls.
Turn(142)
BB check. Hero bets 75. BB check raises all in.

hero?
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04-14-2019 , 07:01 AM
Turn card would help

Suits would help
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04-14-2019 , 07:55 AM
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Originally Posted by feel wrath
Turn card would help

Suits would help
Doubt it. Call.
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04-14-2019 , 12:19 PM
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Originally Posted by feel wrath
Turn card would help

Suits would help
Whoops. Turn was a K. Rainbow board. BB is unknown player. Its his first hand at the table.
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04-14-2019 , 12:26 PM
Unless BB has an oxygen tank, this is a snap call. I generally don't like downbets OTF, but this might be a good place for it.
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04-14-2019 , 03:31 PM
Here’s a pretty standard one that I’m questioning:

Hero is SB - picks up AKss

Action pre: tight player UTG+2 opens to 25, tight player in HJ calls, Hero 3!’s to 80 (was going to go bigger, but HJ made an audible sigh when I started cutting out my 3! so I sized $15 smaller hoping that UTG+2 comes along, he does. HJ folds as expected.

Flop: 6h - 7h - Ac ($192)

Hero 1st to act... what’s your play here?

(UTG+2 has about $325 behind.)
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04-14-2019 , 04:01 PM
B/c 130$. Doesnt get much more standard than this.
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04-14-2019 , 05:56 PM
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Originally Posted by NutJob72
B/c 130$. Doesnt get much more standard than this.


C bet is way bigger than I would be going.

Definitely c bet/getting it in here but I’d be going 85/90 to get calls from worse Aces and any non believing pocket pairs

Also, 3 bet to 105 pre
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04-14-2019 , 06:49 PM
Well there shouldn't be many worse Aces. AQ maybe AJ. Their either going to call with them or not. I dont think 40$ is going to increase the frequency of a worse A calling enough to increase our profit by betting less.
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04-14-2019 , 07:55 PM
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Originally Posted by XtraScratch8
Here’s a pretty standard one that I’m questioning:

Hero is SB - picks up AKss

Action pre: tight player UTG+2 opens to 25, tight player in HJ calls, Hero 3!’s to 80 (was going to go bigger, but HJ made an audible sigh when I started cutting out my 3! so I sized $15 smaller hoping that UTG+2 comes along, he does. HJ folds as expected.

Flop: 6h - 7h - Ac ($192)

Hero 1st to act... what’s your play here?

(UTG+2 has about $325 behind.)
bigger pre like 95 or so
$80 flop
shove turn

Last edited by barney big nuts; 04-14-2019 at 08:00 PM.
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04-14-2019 , 07:59 PM
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Originally Posted by NutJob72
Well there shouldn't be many worse Aces. AQ maybe AJ. Their either going to call with them or not. I dont think 40$ is going to increase the frequency of a worse A calling enough to increase our profit by betting less.
so you gonna bet $130 every time you whiff too?
The reason you bet smaller on the flop is so when you are bluffing you save money
$80 will accomplish this and you are still able to stuff turn. Not saying you do this but you can't just size up when you have it and then size down when you"re bluffing
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04-14-2019 , 08:04 PM
Usually I would go bigger pre here, but I heard HJ’s frustration that I was 3!ing, and I sized a bit smaller because of that.

I ended up cbetting $115, and wondered if I should have went a bit smaller, or even check a street OTF because V is likely drawing to 2-3 outs usually. Often he has Ax or PP’s between 99-QQ here.

V folded to my flop bet and I wondered if I lost some value by sizing too big OTF.
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04-14-2019 , 09:03 PM
I think checking some % of the time can be good because villian might try to bluff you off of 1010-kk when you c/c
Sort of new to live but online there is money to be made in these spots bluffcatching so gonna assume vs certain villians live checking could be the most profitable option

c/c aq/ak here also protects you when you have those hands i mentioned above because they can't just bluff you with impunity
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04-14-2019 , 09:14 PM
Live V's way under-bluff, and love to take free cards.
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04-14-2019 , 09:22 PM
^
Yeah, I think I agree with this in a general way for sure.
This guy fit that stereotype too.
Probably just overthinking a straight forward hand.
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04-14-2019 , 09:23 PM
I wondered if the odd flop check might make my turn/river bet harder to believe with 10’s-QQ.
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04-15-2019 , 03:11 AM
I x here against maniac bluff monkeys.

Would often x the turn against better regs because they know I’m a nit so they won’t continue with many worse hands but they may bluff the river or call a river bet with worse after a turn check.

Passive regs get a bet/fold for 3 streets on most run outs but not sized to GII unless stacks are quite small - buyin is $500 at 2/3 but passive regs are more likely to buy in for $300 unlike the aggros and young guns.

Edit

That’s with TPTK. Weaker TP hands, I do a lot of checking OTF.
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04-15-2019 , 12:20 PM
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Originally Posted by minky911
1/3 9 handed. 400 eff. Btn straddle $6. blinds call. Hero raises to 40 UTG with AJs. BB calls.

Flop(92) JJ5
BB check. Hero bets 25. BB calls.
Turn(142)
BB check. Hero bets 75. BB check raises all in.

hero?
Way too early position to be raising a stack committing amount especially with a hand that often hates to be committed with TP in a raised pot. It plays fine multiway limped, so that's what I'd do.

But great result (HU in position) and great flop, so whatever I guess.

SPR is 4ish and board ain't drawy. I'd just bet a little over 1/2 PSB on each of the first two streets to setup a river shove for about the same. Therefore I don't really like our flop sizing unless we're attempting to induce.

As played, snap call probably regardless of what the turn actually is.

GBBVisthataway,imoG
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04-15-2019 , 02:57 PM
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Originally Posted by Garick
Unless BB has an oxygen tank, this is a snap call. I generally don't like downbets OTF, but this might be a good place for it.
Yeah thats what I did. He had pocket 5s.
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04-15-2019 , 03:06 PM
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Originally Posted by minky911
Yeah thats what I did. He had pocket 5s.
Postflop is pretty much a cooler.

The question is whether we should have been in this cooler spot (by raising in EP with this hand for 10% of our stack).

GIdon'tthinkso,butotherswilldisagreeG
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04-15-2019 , 09:28 PM
1/3NL

Hero ($620) has aggressive winning image. Has just shown down QQ as a winning hand twice in the last orbit or so. First was an open over a straddle, half-stack V 3-bet and hero 4-bets AI. V called, and never showed. Second was a straddle with a couple of calls, hero raises to $30 and gets one call. Hero has super-aggro image at this point, esp in straddled pots, so decides to show after V folds to c-bet.

No straddle this hand. 3 limps to Hero OTB, who looks down at AA. This game has been playing more GG-style, with folks reluctant to fold even to big raises after they limp, so Hero sizes up a bit, and goes $25.

Turns out I could probably have made it even bigger. Both blinds and all three limpers call. Stacks vary from $80 left in the tilted half-stacker's rebuy, 3 V's in the $200-300 range, and two who cover.

Pot $145
Flop Ac8d2c
Everyone checks to hero who ??

Last edited by Garick; 04-15-2019 at 09:49 PM. Reason: stack
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04-15-2019 , 09:45 PM
How much do you have?

Not sure it really matters. Looks like the pot has ~$150 and we have ~$250. Pretty easy gii over 2 streets. $85 otf. Shove the rest ott.
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