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08-30-2018 , 01:59 PM
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Originally Posted by Millnoc
1/2 game is only 20 mins in. V is 24 year old kid with $300, looks studious with a button up shirt. 1pm on a wednesday. H is 30 year old button up white male with $500. H raises $11 with red QQ after a limp, V on BTN calls only. Flop 962dsd H cbet 15 V cals quickly. Turn offsuit 9. With SPR of 5:1 are you betting this turn exploititively? GTO prob says check but do you bet anyways?
If you bet exploitatively, what tendency do you imagine that you are exploiting?

Absent a read, it is an obvious check, and call a reasonably sized bet.
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09-01-2018 , 09:49 AM
1/2 at local casino, around midnight on Friday night. V is MABG who is not very good. Something like 60/10 pre. Definitely calls too much post, has trouble folding any decent made hand. Bought in for the table minimum but doubled up recently with AQo after a decent bet with ace high and hitting a Q against JJ. I recently mentioned in casual conversation when asked how long I'll be at the table that no longer when I leave my kids will get up at the same time (true).

UTG straddle 5, 2 calls in MP, V (145) calls in SB, H with As7s call in BB (covers), UTG check.

Flop (22) Jh7c7d. V bets 5, H calls, rest fold.

Turn (32) Jh7c7d2s. V says "let me help you get home to your kids, I bet all of it" and pushes all in for 135.

I don't think this is ever a bluff but I don't have to include too many 7x to be good 50% here.

Call this? Fold pre?

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09-01-2018 , 09:55 AM
Call. No, I don't fold pre.
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09-01-2018 , 10:09 AM
Can't call fast enough.
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09-01-2018 , 11:25 AM
Why would you ever fold there?
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09-01-2018 , 11:37 AM
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Originally Posted by AlanBostick
Why would you ever fold there?
Cause I had a rough session and was second guessing myself. Appreciate the confirmation. I called and he had 22 then the reg next to me told me he would have folded and I was like WTF.

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09-01-2018 , 11:43 AM
Reg is a moron or a liar.
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09-01-2018 , 04:26 PM
Brand new 2/3/5 table. The 2nd hand. 2 limpers. Hero(covers) raises 30 with AdAc from CO. SB and both limpers call. 4 way to the flop.
3d8d9h

SB open jam 200+. UTG quickly jam 450~. another limper folds. Hero? Both Vs were unknown to hero. OK, SB is a southeast Asian in his 30s. UTG is a MAWG.

Last edited by Horseworker; 09-01-2018 at 04:33 PM.
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09-01-2018 , 04:29 PM
given description of “unknown” i’m picturing this



i’m fairly sure you have eyes so this isn’t accurate
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09-01-2018 , 07:07 PM
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Originally Posted by Horseworker
Brand new 2/3/5 table. The 2nd hand. 2 limpers. Hero(covers) raises 30 with AdAc from CO. SB and both limpers call. 4 way to the flop.
3d8d9h

SB open jam 200+. UTG quickly jam 450~. another limper folds. Hero? Both Vs were unknown to hero. OK, SB is a southeast Asian in his 30s. UTG is a MAWG.
seems like a trivial fold
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09-01-2018 , 07:11 PM
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Originally Posted by AlanBostick
If you bet exploitatively, what tendency do you imagine that you are exploiting?

Absent a read, it is an obvious check, and call a reasonably sized bet.
I read it as betting the turn knowing people don't raise-bluff as often as they should even though we don't have many 9s in our range and they do.
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09-01-2018 , 08:24 PM
Kk on AAQ flop
Deep stacked

I’m thinking check oop, bet in position.
Additionally against LAGs let them bluff at it, and against TAG bet large on flop and size down on turn and fold to check raises.

Seem reasonable? Or should I just bluff catch?
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09-01-2018 , 08:34 PM
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Originally Posted by AlanBostick
If you bet exploitatively, what tendency do you imagine that you are exploiting?

Absent a read, it is an obvious check, and call a reasonably sized bet.
Good question. I was trying to exploit a younger males tendency to not be pushed around vs a rival. I wanted value. I shouldn’t be betting here, so I figured it would look FoS and trigger some alpha part of him.
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09-01-2018 , 08:41 PM
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Originally Posted by ImAllInNow
seems like a trivial fold
Not so sure about that. SB could have anything and UTG jamming makes no sense if he has a set, he could just flat. I guess I fold still but I don't like it.
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09-01-2018 , 09:25 PM
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Originally Posted by ChrisV
Not so sure about that. SB could have anything and UTG jamming makes no sense if he has a set, he could just flat. I guess I fold still but I don't like it.
I mean jamming vs flatting seems similar. With the diamonds on the board I'm assuming he just goes all in.

I guess as I look at it more, maybe we can find a cry-call? It could be a flush draw vs an overpair some of the time?
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09-01-2018 , 11:37 PM
I puke folded. Turn 3, river T. So 3d8d9h 3o To

SB shows TT, UTG shows JJ.
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09-02-2018 , 02:53 AM
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Originally Posted by Horseworker
Brand new 2/3/5 table. The 2nd hand. 2 limpers. Hero(covers) raises 30 with AdAc from CO. SB and both limpers call. 4 way to the flop.
3d8d9h

SB open jam 200+. UTG quickly jam 450~. another limper folds. Hero? Both Vs were unknown to hero. OK, SB is a southeast Asian in his 30s. UTG is a MAWG.


I’m calling here. Too many A9, K9, big draws and overpairs. Call and fade
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09-02-2018 , 02:54 AM
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Originally Posted by Dtrain555
Kk on AAQ flop
Deep stacked

I’m thinking check oop, bet in position.
Additionally against LAGs let them bluff at it, and against TAG bet large on flop and size down on turn and fold to check raises.

Seem reasonable? Or should I just bluff catch?


Not enough information here - raised pot, 3 bet, number of villains etc?

But in general I’m checking that flop back with KK 100% of the time
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09-03-2018 , 01:05 PM
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Originally Posted by feel wrath
I’m calling here. Too many A9, K9, big draws and overpairs. Call and fade
500 effective, I presume?

We have Ad so a lot fewer draws out there but there's enough to make it lean towards a call. Very few value hands we are behind as well.

Absent reads I call but not loving it. Gotta ask yourself why 2p+ are donk shoving the flop. Not having the Ad would this a fist pump call imo.
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09-03-2018 , 03:37 PM
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Originally Posted by Horseworker
Brand new 2/3/5 table. The 2nd hand. 2 limpers. Hero(covers) raises 30 with AdAc from CO. SB and both limpers call. 4 way to the flop.
3d8d9h

SB open jam 200+. UTG quickly jam 450~. another limper folds. Hero? Both Vs were unknown to hero. OK, SB is a southeast Asian in his 30s. UTG is a MAWG.
Without reads this is a trivial call.

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Originally Posted by Dtrain555
Kk on AAQ flop
Deep stacked

I’m thinking check oop, bet in position.
Additionally against LAGs let them bluff at it, and against TAG bet large on flop and size down on turn and fold to check raises.

Seem reasonable? Or should I just bluff catch?
I do prefer checking OOP. In position we can mix in some bets and some check backs. In general, we can't reasonably expect to get 3 streets of value from worse very often in this spot. However, most of the time I'm cbetting my air here so I want to cbet my value as well. It could be a good spot to go for a stutter step. Ie, cbet flop, check back turn, and then bet river..potentially bomb river with the expectation of getting called by all 2 pair hands because our line looks so full of ****.
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09-04-2018 , 12:28 PM
Hero relatively new to 1/2 table, probably doesn’t seem touristy/fishy. Both villains seem leaning towards active/looser in limited impression, both cover or close enough.

H open K♥️Q♥️ 10 EP 8handed, villains call co/btn, blinds fold.

flop J♥️T♦️8♥️, H 22 into 33, call, call

turn 6♠️ (99) H 55 with 135 back, call, call

river 2♥️ H jams at a medium pace

rate my line, probably could do a lot of different things in various places. a more complex question is whether i should play A♥️Qx this way
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09-04-2018 , 12:51 PM
Hand seems fine. Weve got tons of equity. If they have AXhh then oh well.

As for the later question, generally I think it's no good as we get called a lot. As I expect you got called here. But it will be villain dependent.
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09-04-2018 , 02:55 PM
Flop is a bet or a check/raise. You should be checking turn. Your equity went way down and this is just the type of board someone might slowplay on the flop to make sure a heart doesn't hit the turn. River jam is correct.

With AhQx you should be checking flop and turn on this board. You would be double gutted on the flop but only 3 outs to the nuts. This board hits other players' ranges hard.
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09-09-2018 , 02:53 AM
Assuming a HU pot on the flop where I'm cbetting $4 into a pot of $10, how often does my opponent have to fold for my play to breakeven? (how do we calculate this)
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09-09-2018 , 10:27 AM
Are you assuming you always lose if he calls? If so, the calculation is easy. You're risking $4 to return $14 ($10 in the pot plus getting your $4 back). $4 is 28.57% of $14, so as long as V folds more than that often, your play is +EV.

In the real world, it's much more complicated than that, because when he calls, you have equity, IOs and reverse IOs. Still, that gives you the basic idea. The "bluffing formula" is Break-Even% = Amount you're Risking divided by Amount of Return (pot+your bet). Note that this is exactly the same as the "calling formula" if you are considering a call OTR. It is usually called the Break-Even Formula.
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