good question, prolly in the 1/3 of the graph i played like i played before, (stopped to play FR for like 1/2 a year), then i thought, hey, you became better - so try to play a "better" style.

prolly smth like that

@ ranka, haha, no hu inside

Hu graph:

people look into winrates too much. It's really hard to gauge a player just on winrate and hands unless you know the full story. For example, if I bumhunted 6m 6-8 tables and played 6 hours/day I'm sure I could win at 3ptbb/100, but I'd be playing about 2.5-3x less hands and have to play more. Instead I prefer full ring when I want to grind a lot, because I can win more fpp's, and I'd have to win 2.5-3x less bb/100 just to make same/less than 6m bumhunting.

Just look at the known MSNL bumhunters. No one would consider them better than a player with a similar winrate that mass tables. For those of you that will say it, this isn't a bash on bumhunters. Just saying winrates aren't that big of a deal, hourly would be the best indicator of skill including time waiting for bums for the hunters.

My red line is a big winner. My blue line is also positive.

who gives a ****

I read alot of posts in this forum and find myself thinking the same thing

its funny cause i started the thread HAHHAHAHA

ur stoned amirite?

smmoke treeeeeeee

Higher winrare -> less variance [smaller downswings] -> better mindset and less tilt problems

Small winrate -> huge variance [looong BE stretches, big downswings] -> mindset is ****ed up and you are more tilty, stressed etc.

Now you are going into a dead cycle. If you don't have tilt problems, you constantly win, variance is small and no loong downswings, then you go to the tables more happily, tilt less and again won more.

If you have huuuuge downswings, u slighlty win and still have long break even stretches and lose a quite often then it cause tilt. You tilt more, you lose more, you are stressed etc.

So, jumanjii, go to doctor and let him look up into you head. I think you need brain surgery.

Is it high winrate creates low variance, or low variance creates high winrate...? Srsly, this has been bugging me lol

high winrate -> low variance

low variance |= high winrate


imagine you fold ANY hand preflop - you will have no variance - but also a ****ty winrate

God damn, I explained it badly maybe but 3PT/BB long run variance is smaller than 1PT/BB variance.

It's the same if you play 10NL then your edge over your opponent is HUGE. You may have daily huge swings like at one point you are down 5BI and 2-nd point up to 5BI! But in the long you don't see 100,000 hands/many months long BE stretches/downswings.

If you don't believe me then use PTR - players who have larger winrates have less BE stetches/donwswings.

I think you guys are using "variance" incorrectly. You variance is going to be roughly the same, based on your style of play, regardless of your win rate. Variance is just a measure of how your winnings moves from your trend. This is not the same as how big your downswings are.

nit