Non Showdown Winnings - Live Low-stakes No Limit Poker Forum

Just wanted to get some concensus here. I'm barely above the water with Non-SD winnings life time at FRNL. I have a much smaller sample than some people here.

Are the majority of people losing without showdown at FRNL? Is ~breakeven the norm? Anyone winning significantly w/o SD?

:rolle yes:

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01-20-2009 , 09:09 PM

RosaParks

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I am the opposite. My nsd goes straight up and my showdown is slightly winning.

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01-20-2009 , 09:26 PM

-VINNY-

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I'm a showdown whore

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01-20-2009 , 09:34 PM

Artanis11

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I bleed slowly in non sd. My blue line kicks ass though.

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01-20-2009 , 09:50 PM

GrandMelon

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My old database had my NonSD winnings as like 1/6 or so of my total winnings IIRC. This month however my SD winnings are like -9k and my NonSD are like +4k lol.

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01-20-2009 , 11:14 PM

BoyItalia

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non showdown tends to slowly go down butIf I dont stop the life tilt Im on I think both my sd and non showdown are going to start curving backwards lol

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01-21-2009 , 12:08 AM

notfreemoney

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YOUR DOING IT ALL WRONG

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01-21-2009 , 01:37 AM

GoMukYaSelf

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ive never had my blue line go much above 0 lifetime

luckily i make 3x more at nonshowdown than i lose at showdown

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01-21-2009 , 01:49 AM

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Originally Posted by Artanis11

I bleed slowly in non sd. My blue line kicks ass though.

+1.

nsdw used be a sig negative, but for the past 80k hds or so I've gotten it to level off. lol sample size so maybe its not indicative of anything.

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01-21-2009 , 11:40 AM

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Originally Posted by GoMukYaSelf

ive never had my blue line go much above 0 lifetime

luckily i make 3x more at nonshowdown than i lose at showdown

lol I'm the opposite

My red line is way down there but my overall winrate is pretty good.

As long as final result is desirable doesn't matter how you get there.

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01-21-2009 , 11:58 AM

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Deanglow

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Yeah I really think it doesn't matter as long as you get the desired win rate imo. I win a lot at showdown

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01-21-2009 , 12:34 PM

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Keep in mind that most things you do to try and get your nsd line up will negatively affect you sd line. For example, if you 3barrel more, you'll win more nsd, but when you get called, your sd will take the hit. Similarly when you thin value bet the river, 3bet more, etc. So if you tinker with one, you need to watch the other as well.

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01-21-2009 , 03:25 PM

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my last 100k hands of whatever i played, mainly 2/4 fulll ring

I win moneis with out showdow,and lose a ton when i do showdown i guess=(

22/52 wtsd/w$asd. Im think given how my game plays that 22 wtsd isnt to high if at all. I always thought that we make the best decisions at the tables when we are there playing, and the stats that show up after were irrelavant. I really wonder how all those stat overview coaching sessions works, Does anyone have any experience "plugging leaks" by looking at someones stats or and example of what that would entail. I dont see how u can plug a leak by always playing a certain stat lol idk maybe i misunderstand what they do.

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01-21-2009 , 03:53 PM

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the fluctuations of my pokerstars balance are most narrowly correlated with my dark green line

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01-21-2009 , 05:40 PM

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Originally Posted by oldschool

looks like a very low variance style

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01-21-2009 , 06:43 PM

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rofl.

i cant wait till i ahve a big PLO sample. it's like a kamikaze nuclear graph

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01-21-2009 , 08:58 PM

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Originally Posted by oldschool

my last 100k hands of whatever i played, mainly 2/4 fulll ring

I win moneis with out showdow,and lose a ton when i do showdown i guess=(

That is a really impressive graph. I assume you play an aggro style since your nsd line is above your sd line, but how is your biggest drawdown only 9BIs? Of course, the winnings aren't as impressive. :-(

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01-21-2009 , 09:07 PM

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Originally Posted by notfreemoney

YOUR DOING IT ALL WRONG

Wat is the background info on this????? Who is it???

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01-21-2009 , 09:25 PM

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my red line goes up and down with my mood, and also, the amount of redbull i drink has a lot to do with its fluctuations too

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01-21-2009 , 10:24 PM

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notfreemoney

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no background info, thats my real graph. I just thought it was funny how some peoples red line is actually positive. Mine has always had a negative slope like that. I guess it really depends on the style that you play. Being more aggro, having better reads to double barrel, value betting thinner and all that will bring the red line up. I think people worry too much about what their red and blue lines do.

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01-21-2009 , 10:42 PM

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Well maybe the guys who "spew off" on their red line more get more action on thier good hands, so it may not be bad to lose on the red line, as long as the blue line is pimping hard,who knows. Im interested in this but wont probably be able to figure out anything with any certainty unless someone whos knows chimes in. what does too easy think?

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01-22-2009 , 12:57 AM

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my red line is basically break even but very slightly negative

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01-22-2009 , 03:44 AM

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i refuse to discuss the topic any further

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01-22-2009 , 04:54 AM

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Originally Posted by too eazy

:rolle yes:

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01-22-2009 , 03:03 PM

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Originally Posted by too eazy

i refuse to discuss the topic any further

this is ur thread, you bastard lol

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