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NL600: Top two get CRAI on turn NL600: Top two get CRAI on turn

12-04-2008 , 09:40 PM
This is versus the esteemed Mektin (good tag).

what say you forum??

Full Tilt Poker, $3/$6 NL Hold'em Cash Game, 9 Players
LeggoPoker.com - Hand History Converter

SB: $1,194
BB: $830.05
UTG: $600
UTG+1: $1,200
UTG+2: $1,223.85
Hero (MP1): $1,209
MP2: $1,028.25
CO: $937.10
BTN: $1,170

Pre-Flop: Q A dealt to Hero (MP1)
UTG raises to $21, UTG+1 folds, UTG+2 calls $21, Hero calls $21, 2 folds, BTN calls $21, 2 folds

Flop: ($93) A 6 2 (4 Players)
UTG bets $50, UTG+2 folds, Hero calls $50, BTN folds

Turn: ($193) Q (2 Players)
UTG checks, Hero bets $100, UTG raises to $529 and is All-In, Hero ??
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12-04-2008 , 11:11 PM
he "should" have a big flush here given that it's a multiway pot and you have to have something reasonably strong

but with the As and Qs on the board that doesn't leave many big flushes in his utg range... but since you coldcalled him with AQo I guess you must think his range is sorta wide

originally I was going to advocate a crying call based on the fact that he is repping such a tiny range (this line would be terrible with a set for various reasons) and you have a few outs against almost everything... but with 4 to the flop I think it makes it harder for him to get out of line or overplay something like AxKs and this could possibly being a crying fold

ofc, this also depends on what your definition of "a good tag" is
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12-05-2008 , 01:06 AM
Ugghh... you beat AKs and KKs, and lose to everything else. I think I'm folding...

Does he have any kind of history of c/r'ing draws on turn?
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12-05-2008 , 01:07 AM
Good feedback. More! More!!


Why is it a horrible way to play a set? (this is a leading question)

Do you like your hand more or less if you have 22 ?


By good tag, I mean one of the top 5 at 2/4 and frequents the 5/10 games as well. Not one of the 12/9 uber nit types, but someone that plays more hands and makes more money.
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12-05-2008 , 01:13 AM
why would you check a hand you think is best that has no spade in it and why would you shove when your opponent's range has a lot of flushes. you either think your set is good or you don't and in neither case does it make sense both to check and to raise
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12-05-2008 , 06:37 AM
ummm metkin is a pretty big nit i dunno what your talking about
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12-05-2008 , 03:25 PM
I think Mek shows you 666 here a ton and I doubt he's turning Axks into a bluff when the queen peels off. Plus your turn bet sizing is probably not what he expected.If you bet 140 then his turn shove is like a great size etc..

actually, multiway pot etc.. idk now but I think this is probably a fold.
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12-05-2008 , 03:40 PM
I probably would have put him on a non-nut flush. I probably fold more often than I call - it depends on villain tho, and I can't remember Metkin's stats offhand. what was the thinking behind your turn bet size? I figure if you think he doesn't have a flush, you make a bigger bet to price him out, and if you do think he has a flush you check behind.
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