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Nl600: 3bet pot with Ak, river decision Nl600: 3bet pot with Ak, river decision

05-08-2010 , 08:51 AM
hello...

villian is 19/15 with mp range of about 18%. fold to 3 bet 62%. i have really no history with him. i should be almost an unknown for him.

flop: maybe giving up is fine? i think not much of his range will fold to one barrel. problem is i have no real idea of his flattingrange. but i think something like 88+ AJs+ maybe some connectors, maybe not. is this range to wide?

turn: i think villian will expect me to barrel this turn like ever. so is just did it, of course for value.

river: the T is not the greatest card. i think i am behind here to 99,TT, JJ. on the other side qq / kk are possible, not sure if he will ever float me here with someting like ADs on the flop.

so what is my river line? i think there are just 4 possiblities:

a) shove
b) bet/call 125
c) bet/fold 125
d) c/f

i think c/c is really not good.

Grabbed by Holdem Manager
NL Holdem $6(BB) Replayer
Hero ($681)
BB ($699)
UTG ($643)
UTG+1 ($1,151)
UTG+2 ($1,016)
CO ($353)
BTN ($600)

Dealt to Hero A K

fold, UTG+1 raises to $18, fold, fold, fold, Hero raises to $60, fold, UTG+1 calls $42

FLOP ($126) 6 J 9

Hero bets $65, UTG+1 calls $65

TURN ($256) 6 J 9 A

Hero bets $125, UTG+1 calls $125

RIVER ($506) 6 J 9 A T

Hero ???

Last edited by HeiCash; 05-08-2010 at 08:57 AM.
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05-08-2010 , 10:01 AM
i'd c/f. I agree that you can c/f the flop too.
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05-08-2010 , 11:00 AM
I'd bet more on the turn so that a river shove is easier. With the pot at 506, and sitting with like 350ish, I think it's a clear shove still.
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05-08-2010 , 01:18 PM
Shove.
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05-08-2010 , 02:25 PM
What are we hoping to get called by with a shove?

AQ, KJ?
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05-09-2010 , 08:26 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by slowlane123
What are we hoping to get called by with a shove?

AQ, KJ?
well, of course villian must "bluffcatch" here with hands like qq or maybe sometimes KK or a random jack. really dont know how often he will have something like this here. and i think because i am more an unknown for him he may just fold this. so i dont know if the ship is +ev, if he only will call with his valuerange, which obv beats us.

betting thin like 125 is a kind of leveling. i dont have any history with him. so will he ship random bluffs to such a weak bet or can we really b/c ?

the c/f is on the other side not sooo bad. i believe mainly he has sd value here an will c/behind and maybe just bet hands which beat us?

really sick hand without real reads about the villian imo.
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05-15-2010 , 12:50 AM
I think shove is probably the worst move. i check/call is terrible to in this spot you really just gotta check/fold i dont think he is going to bet here with anything you can beat unless he just puts you on air and he is most likely going to just check behind you in this spot
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05-15-2010 , 06:10 AM
I think it's check fold, but you'd have to do some calcs including his river range, river calling range (to a shove), and make some estimations as to how often he's going to turn a worse made hand into a bluff.
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05-16-2010 , 08:18 AM
c/f

shove if you want rosaparks's redline
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05-16-2010 , 05:51 PM
Don't gay cbet like that? You think he's gonna fold pritty much anything to that betsizing? Why don't u just flip over ur cards instead?
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05-17-2010 , 03:03 AM
i donk think QQ&KK are still possible because the Ace will pretty much scare them unless villain is leveling here + your thin value might caused him to call. I think if he has a set he would raise pretty much to get value from AK, FD, QQ, KK.

ill go with c/f.
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05-17-2010 , 04:07 AM
id jam
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05-21-2010 , 02:10 PM
shove
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