villain (Pokemyface85) in CO is a reg (18/15/2.7 in 6k hands)
if we were not that deep i would shove turn.
BB is a fish and I don't think has more than a pair or a draw.
what is the range of villain hands?

Poker Stars $2/$4 No Limit Hold'em - 9 players
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SB: $461.00
BB: $225.00
UTG: $832.40
UTG+1: $467.00
Hero (UTG+2): $926.60
MP1: $393.20
MP2: $393.20
CO: $1660.60
BTN: $386.00

Pre Flop: ($6.00) Hero is UTG+2 with 8 7
2 folds, Hero raises to $8, 1 fold, MP2 raises to $29, CO calls $29, 2 folds, BB calls $25, Hero calls $21

Flop: ($118.00) 5 7 8 (4 players)
BB bets $50, Hero raises to $124, MP2 folds, CO calls $124, BB raises to $196 all in, Hero calls $72, CO calls $72

Turn: ($706.00) J (3 players - 1 is all in)
Hero ???

How light does he 3 bet pre? i think im getting it in here.

Since hes calling ima have to keep on betting baby and tell him if he call gon be all over.

yeah he hasn't got 910 maybe BB does which would suck for you, but overpair is way more likely for CO IMO, say alittle prayer to Gamblor that it's not JJ and get it all in baby

yea, your gonna have to bet this turn hard, and hope he has a stubborn over pair. You cant afford giving him a free card or missing out on value especially if he has aq or ak with the flush draw.

My thought is that he has either an overpair or a set.
If I check the turn i can see which one he has.
I don't know why but it's very hard for me to believe that he is calling with an overpair here.
It's so obvious that i have at least two pair.

Raise the flop to 100 that way you can reraise over the shortstacks all in.
As play barrel the turn til your hearts content.

On second thought on this hand, i think probably he has AdQd,66 or jj here. What else would he just call the multiway pot and keep chasing the flop. A set would want to get it in here hoping you have overpair KK or AA and interpret a fight with you having an agressive flush draw. And 910 is of course possible he was getting decent odds to call the flop and hope another non diamond openended out hits.

So half his range has you crushed 910/jj and the other half 66/AdQd is on draws. I think you do have to get it in here. not to mention hitting a 3rd jack is a less unlikely compared to the rest of his range.

Here is what happened next.
Poker Stars $2/$4 No Limit Hold'em - 9 players
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SB: $461.00
BB: $225.00
UTG: $832.40
UTG+1: $467.00
Hero (UTG+2): $926.60
MP1: $393.20
MP2: $393.20
CO: $1660.60
BTN: $386.00

Pre Flop: ($6.00) Hero is UTG+2 with 8 7
2 folds, Hero raises to $8, 1 fold, MP2 raises to $29, CO calls $29, 2 folds, BB calls $25, Hero calls $21

Flop: ($118.00) 5 7 8 (4 players)
BB bets $50, Hero raises to $124, MP2 folds, CO calls $124, BB raises to $196 all in, Hero calls $72, CO calls $72

Turn: ($706.00) J (3 players - 1 is all in)
Hero checks, CO checks

River: ($706.00) 5 (3 players - 1 is all in)
Hero checks, CO bets $400, Hero folds



I still think my check on the turn was an ok play.
Here is villain's likely hands:
1. set or a straight : he is betting on the turn and i think i can save some money folding
2. overpair (not JJ): i think he is folding to a value turn bet from me (if he calls he must think that all his money are going in on river). So by checking my value bet on river will get paid.
3. flush draw: this is where my check on turn is bad

It's a close call but i chose the conservative route cause i thought if all this money were going in i would likely be behind against this villain

Horrible river.

What did villian end up showing down?

I'll tell you tomorrow. I want to see some more thoughts

that flop raise is way too small.

i'm shoving the turn, mainly for protection. the only hand i'd really be afraid of is JJ. there's just no reason whatsoever to think he's coldcalling your raise with a set or a straight on the flop.

with that line, i'm pretty sure he has QQ.

if the villian is good he would no that he is probably behind after the flop. cold calls the flop bet , does he do this with a set? i know i wouldnt. so he has op,fd.or a sd.villian for sure bets the turn with a set after checked to unless he sucks. river pairs the board after being checked to. he fires 400 he must have a weird played overpair qq/kk maybe. i like how you played the hand , and whatever he has its better than what you have on the river. this is a super tough spot imo and a really intresting hand. can you post results tonight maybe op? thanks

toss up between 9/10 and an op. really hard to be sure here.

yea, i'll post today the results.
it's interesting nobody has found exactly the hand of the villain yet...

Isnt AdJd well within his range here?

All I play is live though, so i could be way off..

I don't think he would call preflp with AdJd

Seems like he could easily show up here with 56 suited, 67 suited or 66.

He's never bluffing the river unless he's a ******. There's another player all-in already. He has very little to gain by blowing you off a hand. The river is a snap fold.

Ok, here is the whole hand..


Poker Stars $2/$4 No Limit Hold'em - 9 players
The Official 2+2 Hand Converter Powered By DeucesCracked.com

SB: $461.00
BB: $225.00
UTG: $832.40
UTG+1: $467.00
Hero (UTG+2): $926.60
MP1: $393.20
MP2: $393.20
CO: $1660.60
BTN: $386.00

Pre Flop: ($6.00) Hero is UTG+2 with 8 7
2 folds, Hero raises to $8, 1 fold, MP2 raises to $29, CO calls $29, 2 folds, BB calls $25, Hero calls $21

Flop: ($118.00) 5 7 8 (4 players)
BB bets $50, Hero raises to $124, MP2 folds, CO calls $124, BB raises to $196 all in, Hero calls $72, CO calls $72

Turn: ($706.00) J (3 players - 1 is all in)
Hero checks, CO checks

River: ($706.00) 5 (3 players - 1 is all in)
Hero checks, CO bets $400, Hero folds

Final Pot: $706.00
BB mucks T 8
CO shows A A (two pair, Aces and Fives)
CO wins $703.00
(Rake: $3.00)