fold ldo.

Can't belive you're taking the time to write all that, when I said in my last post he's "POSSIBLY" the best NL player in the world. He and Ivey has played like 1k hands together, and anyone can win in that sample.




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Why so serious?

Such an obvious fold. You don't even beat JJ.

Also, with the actual hand, I think you have to call this. It's hard for him to have a very large value range, your check looks like you're giving up, and you said he's decent. I think he can be bluffing a large % of his range after you check here.

cut and paste for the win.

you can focus on the world possibly all you want, but the only reason you bring that up is because you think he likely is. Otherwise there would be no point in mentioning that he might be the best. I mean technically I could say that you are possibly the best NL player in the world (and I wouldn't technically be wrong) as baseless conjecture is always possible. But the fact is that information available would suggest such a statement as laughably wrong.

The point is that you made that statement because you believe there is a strong reason to think he is the best. I simply stated that the facts available don't support that opinion. you have yet to give any contrary evidence as to why these facts are incorrect or why other information would run counter to them.

so my point remains the known results would not support that he is the best NLHE player in the world.

And my point still stands. He plays almost every day for sick hours and crushes durrr and most others. Phil Ivey might be best, or maybe not. I just think there's a good chance Isildur1 is best. The question is, why do you totally disregard even the possibility that Isildur might be best?

that picture however would support the opinion that he rarely washes his hair.

who cares what is possible? the interesting question is do you think it is probable? and what evidence do you have to support that?

also do you think it is possible that you had the best hand against ricky? do you think it was probable? what evidence do you have to support these opinions?

I think it's probable because he's crushed many other nosebleed players, and he and ivey has just played very few hands together. Can't belive you don't agree with this lol

I definitl think it was possible, but not probable. If you read through the ricky thread you'll find tha I posted my thoughts there. I'm too lazy to find them myself.

who said that I totally disregarded the possibility that he might be the best? when did I ever say that? I simply put that the results suggest that he is not the best NLHE player in the world.

if you would like to continue the debate we could try and define some metrics that we would use to measure such a thing. otherwise it seems we are just debating whether your (or NVGs) opinion is valid.

You imply several times that Ivey is without a doubt better than Isildur.

He's crushed many other nosebleed players, and he and Ivey just played a few hands together. So, Yes, it is without a doubt valid opinion.

no I implied that available results would support that Ivey is better. I have never claimed to know who is the best NL player in the world. I've simply claimed that other players have had better results, and thus the results would suggest that he is not the best.

please don't put words or opinions into my posts that I didn't make.

If you would like to validate your opinion you should give some solid reasoning based on facts. For example what are his results against other top players? How much over EV has he run? what kind of confidence do we have in his WR based on sample size? What are his results in SH or FR play?

you stated an opinion, I suggested that based on one fact that opinion might be incorrect. if you would to persuade me otherwise you should focus on reasoning and not pointing me to fanboy opinions or posting pictures from movies.

LoL, why not. The picture describes you so spot on.

Anyway, I'm too lazy to find all his statistics for SH/HU and so on. If you want to do that, then go ahead. I just know he's made millions playing HU vs. other nosebleed player, and said that he might be best.

Revelation:

imfromsweden = isildur!!

from urban dictionary:

trolling - Trolling is the act of purposefully antagonizing other people on the internet, generally on message boards.

I don't follow celebrity poker; if I don't know your screen name, you are nobody to me. lol

It's easy to think "Yeah, diamonds, call" but the dynamic with the fish being involved in the pot and villain calling the turn after Hero's turn double barrel and the fish gone feels really strong to me. At least at first it does.

More I think about it though, the more torn I get. I want to say I think he has AQ/77 in his range so much because of PF action, but I just don't see AQ bombing this river. There's quite a few bricked FDs, (KJ, KT, J9, J8, T9, 76, 54 probably the most likely) but I'd downweight most of the 1p ones shoving the river in this manner.

The thing is, I look back to the turn bet and the usual thought is "Sure, we have to bet to keep the draws from binking for free". I don't think we give up much value by checking the turn. We have a very probable best hand with equity when behind, and in an OOP spot such as this we almost would rather have villain pounce on some of our perceived "weakness" than forfeit our equity if he happens to raise/shove over our double barrel. We can c/c here very profitably (with villain betting a large % of draws, or even hands he could valuetown himself with like AT).

To villain it really looks like you don't want to show down. After really looking at it, I think he turns a lot of hands into bluffs, a lot more than are shoving for value. It sucks when you lose to 77 or AA or some other weird hand you weren't expecting. If I had a big ass timebank and enough time to think it all over, I call with AJ.

does it do us good for him to know we called there is the ? imo, and id say yes!