Villain is unknown as I didn't have stats up at the time. Seems like a competent player and is multi-tabling.

I assume he's gonna squeeze pre- with AA, TT and likely AK... so i think those are unlikely holdings. Is this usually a combo draw/set of 4's?

When i first played it, i thought it looked like a fold, but the more i look I keep thinking it looks like a shove. thoughts?

Full Tilt Poker $2/$4 No Limit Hold'em - 9 players
The Official 2+2 Hand Converter Powered By DeucesCracked.com

MP2: $260.10
CO: $89.20
Hero (BTN): $408.00
SB: $319.50
BB: $490.10
UTG: $142.10
UTG+1: $85.10
UTG+2: $391.60
MP1: $104.30

Pre Flop: Hero is BTN with Q A
6 folds, Hero raises to $14, SB calls $12, BB calls $10

Flop: ($42.00) T A 4 (3 players)
SB checks, BB checks, Hero bets $32, SB folds, BB raises to $145, Hero ????

the only hand he could have you beat with is 4s and A10. Because this board is so drawy, I think i push.

I wouldn't be surprised to see KsQs

fold

explain pls

I would call and call again on just about all turns

it usually boils down to if you think this person will play draws this fast.

if it is the first we have ever seen villain c/r anybody, i am typically going to give him the benefit of the doubt that he can beat tpgk. this just seems so obvious

this is a flush draw almost 90% of the time in my experience (so don't fold)

you will be getting less credit than usual with a button raise

I talked this hand over with DamnRinger already but I'm wondering what ranges you people are putting him on etc

Two pair (ATs, A4s), big draw (KQs, KJs, QJs), set of 4s would be the range I'd give him. I'd lean much more towards 2 pair or a big draw than a set based on the size of his c/r.

It's a pretty marginal spot...probably not much difference in EV whether you fold or shove.

Pokerstove that and tell me how much difference it is then

Fold, unknowns never ever bluff...he probably flopped the straight

I dont put him on any range cuz its just too wide (weak ace, draws, air, and 2pr+), but i do know that i crush a really wide range here on the flop. Basically the only hands that wouldnt be doing this is Tx and 4x

I cant do a real accurate range but here is 100% minus Tx and 4x that isnt two spades....

Board: As Ts 4c
Dead:

equity win tie pots won pots tied
Hand 0: 85.914% 85.33% 00.59% 726491 4984.00 { AcQd }
Hand 1: 14.086% 13.50% 00.59% 114941 4984.00 { 22+, A2s+, KJs+, K9s-K5s, Ks4s, K3s-K2s, QJs, Q9s-Q5s, Qs4s, Q3s-Q2s, J9s-J5s, Js4s, J3s-J2s, T4s, 95s+, 9s4s, 93s-92s, 85s+, 8s4s, 83s-82s, 75s+, 7s4s, 73s-72s, 65s, 6d4d, 6s4s, 63s-62s, 5s4s, 53s-52s, 4s3s, 42s, 32s, A2o+, KJo+, K9o-K5o, K3o-K2o, QJo, Q9o-Q5o, Q3o-Q2o, J9o-J5o, J3o-J2o, T4o, 95o+, 93o-92o, 85o+, 83o-82o, 75o+, 73o-72o, 65o, 63o-62o, 53o-52o, 32o }

ok lol, that is alot of hands.....but even when i eliminate all the offsuit trash its still 80%

are you using all those hands cause he could have air? or is that a level?

That range is madness. I agree with bt2 that I usually give cr's a lot of credit if I have no reason not too. I really dont think hes doing this with <AQ for value and the only draws I can put him on are the absolute monsters (KJss, KQss,45ss etc) which leaves pretty much all hands that crush us TT,44,AT,A4 possibly AK. If someone could stove this tight range that would be good.

Think about it froms his point of view (assuming hes sane) we raise pre, and show strength on a board that hits our range pretty well. He's never check raise bluffing here and I dont thing he's ever doing this with 67ss etc either.

Im leaning towards folding but I like to see pokerstove first.

LOL

i think hes actually serious about that range

I really hate discussing poker, but I will do all you reres a favor and give you a piece of 100% serious nonlevelling advice: unknowns BLUFF and do stupid **** way more than you'd expect, and they never raise big hands big. The range may be slightly exaggerated, but it's not very far off

God, maybe I should delete this...because altho I thought this was incredibly obvious, apparently it's like some super secret or something.

i wouldnt say its a big secret. But if people are going to take the time to properly analyze a hand, you shouldnt put a ridiculous hand range in pokerstove.

To be honest, the fact that you think that that range is "so ridiculous", means you have a lot to learn about poker, because it's only slightly off

In fact, the range that has his hands as "2 pair, sets, and big draws" is WAY more offbase

Last piece of advice, done educating the fish now

the read was "Seems like a competent player and is multi-tabling."

this is not the same as unknown