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08-25-2008 , 12:43 AM

O0Brian0O

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UTG+1: $596.60
UTG+2: $218.00
MP1: $376.00
MP2: $400.00
CO: $394.00
Hero (BTN): $861.50
SB: $64.00
BB: $235.60
UTG: $325.20

Pre Flop: ($6.00) Hero is BTN with K

1 fold, UTG+1 raises to $14, 4 folds, Hero raises to $48, 1 fold, BB calls $44, UTG+1 raises to $184, Hero ??

UTG+1 is 15/13/5
BB is 28/5/.6 (90)

UTG+1 and I 3bet each other light fairly often, but with BB, I am not sure if stacking off is right here, especially since were deeper than normal. Just wondering what is standard here.

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08-25-2008 , 01:04 AM

bunga

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Ship it in. UTG is isoing BB enough to make this a shove.

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08-25-2008 , 01:12 AM

GoMukYaSelf

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i dont fold

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08-25-2008 , 07:00 AM

CaptainJack

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easy shove imo, if you run into aces it's just bad timing
you being on the button and the history of 3 betting makes this a no brainer

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08-25-2008 , 09:56 AM

vitti

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Originally Posted by CaptainJack

easy shove imo, if you run into aces it's just bad timing
you being on the button and the history of 3 betting makes this a no brainer

this

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08-25-2008 , 10:52 AM

CaptainJack

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also no way bb is flatting a raise and reraise with aa, even with a 5% raise %. I wouldn't worry about him at all.

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08-25-2008 , 01:11 PM

Talgamer13

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BB: $235.60

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08-25-2008 , 02:23 PM

SABR42

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I would shove.

It's not a fist-pump but speaking from personal experience I'm capable of squeezing in his spot, so I'd never fold kings there for 150BB.

200BB makes it real tough though.

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08-25-2008 , 07:54 PM

l3auble

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yea wtf, who folds here. you say UTG and you have light 3betting history and he can definitely be making a move here or stacking off AK or something

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08-26-2008 , 07:41 AM

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Soehnke

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push it real good, baby

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08-26-2008 , 07:55 AM

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flytrap

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Since we don't need to shove to cut down on BBs implied odds, what about just calling here? We probably won't get any more action from worse hands by shoving, but by calling he may stack off on a rag flop with TT-QQ, and might C-bet his whiffed AK. Of course if I've had lots of preflop allins against this opponent, and showed up with less that KK several times I would shove, but if that is not the case, I might just call.

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08-26-2008 , 11:13 AM

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ziggyzaooo

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calling here would be horrible. pot would be over 400$ and you have only 400$ left, ur pretty much gonna shove anyway on flop.

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08-29-2008 , 01:57 PM

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trebsic

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You're not even close to deep enough to fold Ks preflop. Instashove.

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08-30-2008 , 06:02 PM

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gguzman23

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yah easy push. look how passive bb is. he can be calling with anything here. plus he only got half a stack. You and utg+1 also have history of 3 betting. he can be 4betting really light here as well.

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08-30-2008 , 06:16 PM

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costanza_g

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Originally Posted by ziggyzaooo

calling here would be horrible. pot would be over 400$ and you have only 400$ left, ur pretty much gonna shove anyway on flop.

dubness1 theorem

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08-31-2008 , 08:19 PM

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TacitMike

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Originally Posted by ziggyzaooo

calling here would be horrible. pot would be over 400$ and you have only 400$ left, ur pretty much gonna shove anyway on flop.

You're doing it wrong.

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09-01-2008 , 01:58 AM

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sparky999

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yeah not quite a fist pump shove but probably at least a finger twitching ship it in

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