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NL400 -- AK facing l/rr massive overbet shove vs. fish NL400 -- AK facing l/rr massive overbet shove vs. fish

02-12-2010 , 05:34 PM
Villain is 32/11/1.4 fish over 1k sample. Doesn't seem to be positionally aware. 3bets only 2%.

Full Tilt Poker $2/$4 No Limit Hold'em - 9 players
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CO: $476.50
Hero (BTN): $521.90
SB: $196.00
BB: $325.00
UTG: $788.90
UTG+1: $434.00
UTG+2: $476.00
MP1: $400.00
MP2: $384.00

Pre Flop: ($6.00) Hero is BTN with K A
UTG calls $4, 4 folds, CO requests TIME, 1 fold, Hero raises to $16, 2 folds, UTG raises to $788.90 all in, Hero requests TIME,
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02-12-2010 , 05:38 PM
Given those stats, looks like a pretty easy fold unless you have a read that he is tilting and spews when he does so. I mean a 2% 3-bettor and a 1.4 pretty much does this with only AA and KK right?

Maybe I am a nit, but I think you can probably find a better spot versus this guy.
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02-12-2010 , 06:53 PM
yeah this is a funny one
id prolly call but dont know if its +ev
i mean his line looks so much like AK or some garbage bc he maybe tilts
but i dont think that we all thinkin players can define his range cause usually AA limp-minraises
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02-13-2010 , 03:35 AM
snap fold.

Either he has AK or a pair, and if his hand is face up with a pair, it should be a fold.
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02-13-2010 , 09:53 AM
Call
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02-15-2010 , 12:03 PM
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Originally Posted by Rampage_Jackson
snap fold.

Either he has AK or a pair, and if his hand is face up with a pair, it should be a fold.
this.

In my experience, i see just everytime aa here, ak is his bottom range and he just does not do this with aq.
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02-15-2010 , 01:40 PM
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Originally Posted by RosaParks
Call
Fold
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02-15-2010 , 02:29 PM
did he win big or lose big on the last pot? then i call. otherwise i think i fold to those stats.
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02-16-2010 , 02:38 AM
Seems like an insta fold iyam.

EDIT: Although I probably never fold QQ or AKs, this guy has KK often when he takes this line (they always get cracked ldo).
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02-16-2010 , 09:59 AM
Since I play with 30bbs, I can attest to seeing a lot of trash I don't expect when I'm forced to call here with AK/etc. I'm not saying it's not a fold for 100bbs, but I am saying that donks occasionally have no idea what the top 2% of hands are and often play certain hands the way they want to with no regards for instant entry into the para Olympics. I shoved over a donks PFR for 50bbs at 3/6 and he snap called with 24s and handed me $300. They simply don't think like we do.
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02-16-2010 , 10:14 AM
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Originally Posted by RicoJay13
Since I play with 30bbs, I can attest to seeing a lot of trash I don't expect when I'm forced to call here with AK/etc. I'm not saying it's not a fold for 100bbs, but I am saying that donks occasionally have no idea what the top 2% of hands are and often play certain hands the way they want to with no regards for instant entry into the para Olympics. I shoved over a donks PFR for 50bbs at 3/6 and he snap called with 24s and handed me $300. They simply don't think like we do.
I was under the impression that all shortstackers died in a grease fire?
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02-16-2010 , 10:52 AM
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Originally Posted by sparky999
I was under the impression that all shortstackers died in a grease fire?
Only on full tilt.
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02-16-2010 , 12:06 PM
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Originally Posted by shorn7
Given those stats, looks like a pretty easy fold unless you have a read that he is tilting and spews when he does so. I mean a 2% 3-bettor and a 1.4 pretty much does this with only AA and KK right?

Maybe I am a nit, but I think you can probably find a better spot versus this guy.
Agreed.
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02-16-2010 , 03:13 PM
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Originally Posted by RicoJay13
Since I play with 30bbs, I can attest to seeing a lot of trash I don't expect when I'm forced to call here with AK/etc. I'm not saying it's not a fold for 100bbs, but I am saying that donks occasionally have no idea what the top 2% of hands are and often play certain hands the way they want to with no regards for instant entry into the para Olympics. I shoved over a donks PFR for 50bbs at 3/6 and he snap called with 24s and handed me $300. They simply don't think like we do.
since you play w/ 30 bbs you "simply dont think the way we do"
irony imo
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02-17-2010 , 11:34 AM
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Originally Posted by lucknotskill
since you play w/ 30 bbs you "simply dont think the way we do"
irony imo
Just trying to be helpful. I'll go back to raping baby rabbits.
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02-17-2010 , 12:22 PM
lol and call
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02-17-2010 , 05:34 PM
lol and fold
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02-17-2010 , 07:32 PM
Was villian Sharknebulah?
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02-17-2010 , 07:47 PM
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Originally Posted by clarkatroid
lol and fold
see that doesn't rhyme. some thing like rofl'd and fold might might be funny
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02-17-2010 , 07:49 PM
rdegs used to randomly jam trash like this pre for seemingly no reason, idk if he does anymore
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02-19-2010 , 02:49 PM
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Originally Posted by RicoJay13
Just trying to be helpful. I'll go back to raping baby rabbits.
lol irl...i fold
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02-19-2010 , 05:24 PM
Whenever I call here they have AA. Whenever I fold they do the same thing the very next hand and I'm like fml.
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02-19-2010 , 07:20 PM
Maybe they would have AA two times in a row ?
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