9 handed. Loose open limps at +2. Laggy raises to 15 at LJ. I have AhJh at BU and call. +2 calls too.

Flop(44): 9c8h3h
+2 donks 20, LJ call. Hero...

My questions are...

1. Call or 3-bet pre?
2. Shall Hero raise on flop facing a bet and a call?

1. I mix 3-bets and calls on button here.
2. Yup.

I don’t see stack sizes anywhere…

Sorry. I had 300, +2 has 320 and LJ had 500.

Oh yeah that would help lol. Likely won’t change my answers thus far.

I 3b pre unless limper is particularly bad, or laggy raiser barrells off too much post. Calling is can't be much worse though.

I'd slightly prefer calling flop AP, we have a tiny amount of sdv, can still gii easily with this SPR when we hit and calling maximizes our positional advantage. Once again, raising has its merits, I don't think it's makes much difference how you play these two spots as long as you don't fold.

Nothing bad about calling flop. But us flatting pre puts all sets and top 2 in our range. Donk plus call means both are likely marginal. There are tons of barrel opportunities. We are more likely to win a big pot when we hit.

I just see so many reasons to raise.

3bet to 60 pre good sizing?

Raising flop to 80 good?

Assume we dont have to concern about stack too short for next street, I calculate my default raise size by 3x the bet size plus callers' amound...however, if the bet size too small below half a pot, I 3x half of the pot before his bet plus callers' amount.

If I’m going to raise I think 90 is good. That means if one person calls we have a pot of 244 with 195 behind for the turn. Make it look like a shove on the turn is coming, not just like we’re following a formula.

You’re ahead of a hand like K9 or TT and fold equity is nice. Raise flop jam turn easy game

Yeah I’m in the raise to 90 and jam all turns camp.

I don’t necessarily think we need to jam all turns, when we raise this flop. We can use reads and what the actual turn is.

But I’d probably jam most turns unless I picked up a major strength tell.

Thanks for all insights!

Here's my estimate of the ranges of +2 and LJ. Correct me please if out of the range.

+2 flop donk range: 98s, 76s, JT, A3s, 8[T-A]s, 9[T-A]s, Any two heart cards excluding worst like 7h2h, 9h2h, 9h3h, 2h3h. (Assume he would check flop with all sets like 33, 88, 99).

LJ flop call range: A8s, A3s, most TT+, JTs, 76s, all two Broadway cards of hearts. (Assume he would have raised flop with hands like 9[T+]s, 98s, some flopped sets of 88 or 99).

I like a 3bet preflop with a LAG raising ahead of us.

At $300 stacks I think I'm fine with just a preflop flat. Our hand plays fine multiway so I'm cool inviting others in and just playing some postflop poker on the Button. A 3bet is also fine against a laggy open, although I think I prefer it at smaller stacks (if I was sitting on a $200 stack we could set things up for a PSB shove on any flop, but at these slightly deeper stacks we setup a very awkward turn spot UI with a huge chunk of our stack in).

Facing the flop donk + call, the pot is now pretty big compared to our stack and thus worth fighting over. So I think I'd lean to a raise with what is likely very good equity and some decent FE. The tricky thing is to raise an amount that has both good FE now and on the turn if we're called. If we make it $80, that'll make a $205 shove into a $224 HU pot on the turn, so decent heft on both streets.

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I 3b this a lot but not always. I have a bit of a reputation as someone who 3 bets a lot because I do compared to my opponents. It drives MANY of them absolutely crazy so naturally I try to keep it up as much as possible. You just have so much going for you here it makes me want to start applying pressure.

I love 90/jam most turns.

I took a passive path and overcalled on flop.

Turn (104): 4s
+2 bets 20, LJ calls 20 quickly. I?

Our equity dropped, take the great price and call.

PF is fine either way, no real preference here

Flop seems like a standard call, villain is donking into 2 people. He shouldn't be super strong but your hand is kind of in that middle ground where getting 3 bet is a disaster. You've got position which can be used on later streets to extract value or bluff. I'm kinda surprised how many people are saying raise flop jam turn. I think that's overly ambitious

Sometimes we get 3b by a dominated draw or hand we’re flipping with and I don’t expect a donk / 3b on flop very often. We’re fine gii if needed.

This is still a good time to pull the trigger on a raise. This time let’s make it 100 if we raise.

If we get called by 1 pair, we still have 12-15 outs. We also could get called by a draw we dominate. And we also could fold out 1 pair AND get called by a draw we dominate!

The power of position is that we would have expected a monster to bet more on the turn instead of “same bet.” Unless we think someone is so full of FPS that they would still show up with 2 pair or a set, let’s take control of the hand now.

As played on the flop, part of me wants to raise to put these weak ass bet/calls to the test. The problem is that we're not repping much. What, we flatted this incredibly drawy flop with a monster to raise the turn / this blank somehow helped us? Admittedly, even if our opponents don't buy it, it will still be hard for them to call with weak hands. But at this point I might just take my great odds and call.

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+1 which means we need to have to more fold equity, and unless we have a strong reason to believe that, we should not raise

What we’d be repping on the turn is an overpair or a hand like A9s that was waiting to see a safe turn and our opponents’ action before raising. But even so, are these the kinds of opponents who need to believe our story? Or do they just need to see a big bet?

More frequently than not, I'd call pre from the BTN.

Raise flop to $85-90, then evaluate turn if HU.

As played, call turn w/one card to go.