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07-20-2008 , 07:13 AM

Falc

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CO is 23/17/inf. over 69 hands. UTG+1 is bad, 27/12/2 or so. He checked twice and my feeling (timing and gut) when I first raised CO's bet was that UTG+1 wasn't slowplaying a king so I wasn't worried about that. Thoughts?

Party Poker $1,000 No Limit Hold'em - 8 players
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MP1: $1164.00
MP2: $1037.00
CO: $2161.00
Hero (BTN): $1154.00
SB: $800.00
BB: $200.00
UTG: $1013.75
UTG+1: $581.00

Pre Flop: Hero is BTN with 7

1 fold, UTG+1 raises to $30, 2 folds, CO calls $30, Hero calls $30, 2 folds

Flop: ($105.00) K

(3 players)
UTG+1 checks, CO checks, Hero checks

Turn: ($105.00) 2

(3 players)
UTG+1 checks, CO bets $77, Hero raises to $210, UTG+1 folds, CO raises to $411, Hero raises to $1124 all in

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07-20-2008 , 07:56 AM

13_Xerxes

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Yeah, I like it :
- he can easily slowplay a K or a boat on the flop because people love to slowplay trips,
- you can be drawing dead,
- you raise on the turn when UTG+1 is still in the hand (so, you show more strenght) and he doesn't care,
- he can have a big combo draw (AdQd, QdJd) and you will be drawing very thin,
- if he wants to bluff, why didn't he bet the flop ?

If you really want to win this pot, a call looks stronger, and you can shove the river if he checks and gives up his bluffs.

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07-20-2008 , 08:45 AM

miaowmiaowchowface

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whatever it is he's showing you he doesn't want to fold it, and I'd believe him lol

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07-20-2008 , 10:02 AM

BT2

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villain has a king here a lot

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07-20-2008 , 10:43 AM

Falc

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KT, TT and 22 is pretty much the only legit hands that makes sense with his line. Add a ton of bluffs to that range and he isn't repping much. Why would he play a weak king like this?

Granted I don't represent a whole lot either but I have the last say at this pot so I have the upper hand with my shove.

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07-20-2008 , 10:49 AM

newschool2

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this is a very very risky line. I dont like it. Its just not nessesssssary

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07-20-2008 , 12:50 PM

pattay

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you got balls just not the smart kind

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07-20-2008 , 01:00 PM

speedle

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Is this how you'd play a K/boat?

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07-20-2008 , 01:43 PM

mce86

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The first raise, okay, the second over the top? I think its unnecessary, and now when you do bust this guy, you're just winning your money back...
Whats going to suck most, is when 4 hands later, someone else busts him! I hate that.

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07-20-2008 , 01:52 PM

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pattay

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yeah the thing here is that even though his line looks sketch, your line looks absolutely full of ****

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07-20-2008 , 02:02 PM

#11

Falc

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Originally Posted by pattay

yeah the thing here is that even though his line looks sketch, your line looks absolutely full of ****

Yeah but he will never have anything that can call me besides a pocketpair that he decided to turn into a bluff. Unless he has a monster ofc.

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07-20-2008 , 04:23 PM

#12

BT2

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Originally Posted by Falc

KT, TT and 22 is pretty much the only legit hands that makes sense with his line. Add a ton of bluffs to that range and he isn't repping much. Why would he play a weak king like this?
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with only 69 hands on villain. assuming he is going to play trips in a way that makes sense would be a mistake. it is likely he thinks any king is the nutz and was slowplaying on the flop.

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07-20-2008 , 06:01 PM

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soah

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Originally Posted by Falc

yeah but you can't add a ton of bluffs to his range because that would make no sense for him to bluff this way

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07-20-2008 , 07:37 PM

#14

Falc

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Originally Posted by soah

yeah but you can't add a ton of bluffs to his range because that would make no sense for him to bluff this way

He is really aggro! Thats a reason.

I guess I got lucky/had a good gut feeling in this hand since no one likes it; he folded to the shove.

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07-21-2008 , 08:28 AM

#15

BT2

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after 69 hands an inf AF is meaningless

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07-21-2008 , 11:57 AM

#16

Falc

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He has played 16 hands without ever calling after the flop so it says something and it's also the only thing I have to go after.

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07-21-2008 , 02:42 PM

#17

BT2

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that was not included in the OP so it was assumed that you were not paying attention and going solely on his stats.

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07-21-2008 , 02:59 PM

#18

Falc

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It was! 23 vpip over 69 hands = 16 hands. Altho he might not see the flop all those times so it'll be a little less.

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07-21-2008 , 04:44 PM

#19

Proofrock

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I'd like this more if the board wasn't already paired.

As is, I can't say I like it much at all unless you have a much better read than "aggressive over a small sample."

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07-21-2008 , 05:10 PM

#20

BT2

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oh yea duh

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07-21-2008 , 05:49 PM

#21

Dogboy714

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Originally Posted by Falc

1 fold, UTG+1 raises to $30, 2 folds, CO calls $30, Hero calls $30, 2 folds

Flop: ($105.00) K

(3 players)
UTG+1 checks, CO checks, Hero checks

Turn: ($105.00) 2

(3 players)
UTG+1 checks, CO bets $77, Hero raises to $210, UTG+1 folds, CO raises to $411, Hero raises to $1124 all in

Sometimes I hate money, too.

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07-21-2008 , 06:27 PM

#22

AllTheCheese

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SUCH a sick brag.

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07-21-2008 , 07:47 PM

#23

Falc

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Originally Posted by AllTheCheese

SUCH a sick brag.

I know!

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07-21-2008 , 07:50 PM

#24

too eazy

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i haven't ready any other posts. but i will tell you my honest first reaction to reading this was to say "you're ****ing mental" out loud.

take that for what it's worth.

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07-22-2008 , 08:32 PM

#25

SABR42

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You rep nothing but 22 here.

With that said, good job folding out another flush draw...

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