Yes, ive been posting a lot of hands ive had questions about; they all happened yesterday during the longest session (16 hours) i've played.

Anyway, $1/$2, Hero has been very active and is definitely the most aggressive at the table (VPIP: 70%+, 3bet pre: 12%+, c-bet: 100%) because table has been quite tight/passive for the most part (maybe players have not adapted to short-handed play).

Villain is a young guy who came with his friend. They've been obviously soft-playing each other. Villain has raised alot of pots, but post-flop has been quite passive. He's showndown some very marginal holdings to take down pots (99 on a QT7 A 5 board).

Hero starts with $300, villain has $300. Folded to hero who is UTG+1, I bet $10 with A9. Villain calls from button, all others fold.

Flop: Q8J (pot: $23)

Hero checks. Villain bets $15. Hero raises to $45. Villain shoves. Hero??

First instinct was to fold. Villain has convincingly represented a monster (flopped straight?). Calling may be marginal (if my gutshot was an out instead of likely chop), but my question is less about calling-decision, rather, how should i have played my draw and what plan should i have had if i bricked turn?

Since you have the initiative (were the preflop raiser), and got pretty much the best flop imaginable, I would bet/shove.

Basically, I bet as a sort of semibluff/value bet (not exactly sure which). I expect to get raised by a lot of KQ, QT, etc., against which I have a lot of equity. But some of those hands will fold to my 3-bet shove, while I am still in decent shape if my all in gets called.

So there you have it: bet/raise the flop.

If i bet and get called then brick turn??

Haven't done the math, but I'd guess a call would be somewhat close to break-even against his range. As played I'd probably call.

I don't think you played it terribly though. It's hard to logically assume he would choose to jam over your $45 c/raise rather than flat or raise smaller, so I think your sizing is fine. I guess a better line might be to pot the flop and 3bet shove over any raise $60< and maybe flat raises <$60, especially considering you took the initiative preflop. Barrel almost all turns if flatted.

Your c-bet is 100% you say, but you get a great flop for your hand and you elect to check?

I'm guessing your c-bet% wasn't 100% like you said. Anyway, I bet here 100% of the time. Villain saw your check as weakness and is exploiting it. I think it's close to a call here depending on your range for villain. I'm thinking there are a lot of marginal holdings in villain's range here... Hands like KQ, KT, QT, JT, J9. There aren't very many worse flush draws that would be in here. That being said readless I probably fold. If I pick something up in villain's demeanor that he's playing back at me and protecting a marginal hand, it's much easier to call. (Against KQ, you have 14-15 outs.)

As for your second question about what to do on the turn if villain flats and a blank hits, I bet again, depending on your double barrel% thus far. You would have way too much equity to c/f in that case. If villain opts to raise you ott, count your outs and make a sound decision, but keep in mind that a turn raise after a flop call is usually red flashing lights that you're not only behind but way behind.

I think going for a check/raise is seriously fishy and weird in this spot. What are you hoping to rep?

I can't imagine you're checking that board with any kind of made hand as the pfr, are you? If you're checking sets, the straight, even top 2 there a good percentage of the time (it doesn't sound like you are based on OP) then I guess it's okay, but really this is a board where you should be firing with all your hands that connected.

I actually think stacks are weird for leading here with the intention of 3bet jamming if we get raised too. I assume your typical lead would be like $15 here, meaning we're probably getting raised to $40-$60 depending on Villian, so a shove is going to be a sizable overbet.

If you think Villain is raising your lead on the flop here often with hands that will fold to a push, then it's not terrible since you always have equity when you're called, but I would expect most Villains to be calling this flop with their 1pr hands that beat us but could fold to a 3bet/we're happy to get it in with.

If we get raised, I think I actually like just calling and peeling, and if we get called I'm probably barreling through in this spot unless an A falls or the Q pairs the turn.

As played you're calling $245 into $355, meaning we need about 41% equity to call.


Board: Qc Jc 8s
Dead:

equity win tie pots won pots tied
Hand 0: 39.646% 38.69% 00.96% 9192 228.00 { Ac9c }
Hand 1: 60.354% 59.39% 00.96% 14112 228.00 { QQ-JJ, 88, AQs, QJs, T9s, AQo }

So it's pretty close. If you don't think Villain is jamming AQ here, we're down to 36%, and it becomes a clear call if we start giving Villian hands like KQ. I'd say embrace variance and go for it, but I don't think you're losing or picking up much EV whatever you do in this spot.

^ I think you have to add in a few 8x K10 10x combos as well. Otherwise it's a good range.

fold unless you think he does this with Qx
cbet next time

Fold pre. Even Aj is close this early. Bet flop as played. Fold to a shove.

bet/c flop c/f turn with no improvement

Why didn't you CB with monster pot equity when you were previously 100% CB?

I think this is a pretty standard CB and double-barrel hand. If I wasn't raised OTT and the river was a total brick, I might even fire again (read-dependent of course).

It's going to be hard for villain to call without 2P and I think 2P would raise turn.

The flop is as wet as your mums ....

Easy b/f on flop imo, what worse hand is he gonna raise you with. You're not shoving 282BB into a pot with 40~BB in it with a nut flush draw on a board like that.

If you get called on flop, you will also bet a tonne of turns. Fold equity will be huge (and you still have pot equity, and could turn the best hand on the river).

ie. bet any overcard, club, or any card which would have completed an obvious draw.
c/f anything else

only you know how wet my mums .... is=\ speaking of mum's, i got a pick of ur mom's pair in my avatar biatch.

lol, so b/f the flop???

Dollars do not = BB